I dont have a problem with anyone trying to make life better for themselves. What I do have a problem with is these criminal opportunistic country shoppers sneaking into the backdoor of my country pretending they are genuine asylum seekers at the expense of the REAL refugees waiting in camps all around the world waiting for placements. They are only coming into my country for it easy welfare system as the reports state that 60% of refugees are still on welfare even after being in Australia for 5 years, and thats just not good enough. The report also indicated that 93% of Iraqi and Afghani households are on some form of welfare. If you think these figures are not indicating the true reasons whey these bludgers are coming into this country, then you are a fool. Stop the freebies, and you stop the trash!! How have these individuals contributed to Australias multiculturalism when their first steps onto Australian soil is straight into a CentreLink office to apply for their welfare, and then into a Department of Housing Office to collect the keys to their new homes. Through Australias own stupidity, its created enclaves of ethnic ghettos that Australians are scared to even walk down or through anymore. This is not Australia anymore, this is a mongrelised country full of trouble making people that other countries dont want and they send them over here, and then these people bring their violent ethnic wars, and hatred with them into Australia and cause gang and turf wars in Australian suburbs. Its time Australia stopped importing trash and started importing quality for a change. We dont need anymore welfare recipients, but we do need more educated professionals that can also speak and understand the English language.
Between 70 and 97 percent of boat people are found to be genuine refugees. Your "problem" is based on a fallacy.
"WHO ARE REFUGEES? The 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees (and its 1967 Protocol), to which Australia is a signatory, defines a refugee as: Any person who owing to a well founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his/her nationality and is unable, or owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself/herself of the protection of that country. "The important parts of this definition are: that the person has to be outside their country of origin the reason for their flight has to be a fear of persecution this fear of persecution has to be well founded (ie they have to have experienced it or be likely to experience it if they return) the persecution has to result from one or more of the 5 grounds listed in the definition they have to be unwilling or unable to seek the protection of their country" http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/arp/faqs.html ============================================ On this basis, anyone from any islamic country would automatically qualify as a refugee. All they need to do then, is to live off welfare, while raising a tribe of kids to hate Australia, and hold our laws in contempt.
The Queue is miles long, and any dill with just one eye open can see that. I don't need Bolt or anyone to tell me that which is glaringly self evident. You should stop listening to idiotic Legal Beagles and their congo line of idiots, who refuse to accept that most of these boat people are welfare shoppers, and some probably have a criminal background.
'Theres no such thing as a queue ' http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/22616/ " ... the queue is a myth."
This post is a fallacy and full of rubbish,as it based on the opinion, and 'fantasy' figures of a person whose prime objective is to allow anyone into Australia, so he can justify his position. He wants to allow the rubbish of the world to push and shove their Australia without any checks and balances, so they can suck of our Wefare Teat, to which they have made not a single contribution. How stupid and irresponsible can such a person be!
The QUEUE streches across the world to Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Africa. Only fools, or those with their own biased agenda, are unable to see that. When was the last time Amnesty criticised NON Western countries for human rights violations? And when was the last tme it criticised vile dictators like Mugabwe, last century perhaps? It has been heavily compromised with its blatant anti-Western bias.
Fictitious 'made up' stats, with a difference streching to 18 percentage points.How can anyone possibly use such stats when they can't get closer than 18 percentage points? It just demonstrates that some people will 'dream' up any set of stats to bolster their weak, flabby arguments. Just remember, in future, that there are people on this site who will find you out and hold you to account for 'flimsy' satistics.
Sorry 27 percentage points. Now that's the sort of accuracy you should utilise! But doesn't that make these stats, used to justify letting anyone into OZ without any checks and balances, look so obscenely ridiculous and irresponsible!
A marginal range of 27 precentage points is ok for weather prediction, horse races etc, but nowhere near acceptable when an absolute figure is available.
Nope, but I'm willing to consider any evidence you may have in support of your claim. Hitherto, you've provided no stats to bolster your weak, flabby argument. Care to provide a percentage figure of how many boat people are genuine refugees? Or, seeing as you prefer to deal in the negative, how about the percentage of boat people who are not genuine refugees. Anything at all? Just remember, there are people on this site who make ridiculous claims and then never follow them up with any sort of statistic, link or evidence. They've now been found out.
If there is a queue, post your evidence. If you can't prove your claims, concede. That is how a debate works.
How can anyone with even a modicum of intelligence accept a figure that can't come closer than 27 points.You would have to completely naive or a great believer in the PC world, or maybe still a schoolboy/girl.Even a school boy/girl, at the primary level would be able to see it is just a guess!
Er, no, it isn't a guess: it's a range. Do you understand what a 'range' is? "Past figures show that between 70 and 97 per cent of asylum seekers arriving by boat at different times have been found to be refugees ... " Now, look at that statement closely and tell me what you see? Did you notice the words "at different times"? You did? Good. Shall I explain it further for you, or has the light bulb gone on finally? No, you still don't get it? OK, I'll explain. At different times the percentages have been different. Sometimes the figure is around 70%, sometimes it's around 85%, sometimes ... well, you get the idea. Now, the lowest of those figures (at different times) was 70%. The highest was 97%. Therefore, the percentage ranges from 70 to 97 percent depending on what period of time we're talking about. So, there you have it: it's not a guess, it's a range spanning over a certain period of time. Simple, isn't it? . . .
I have explained the meaning of a queue many time before but you insist with your childish bleating that you can not notice such a a queue.So for the last time I will explain how queue can exist without actually being physically visible. 'if I said to you 'keep your eyes on the ball, would any sane person expect to actually see a ' physical ball'? If they did, they would either be a a child or have a low level of intelligence. So when for instance,we are on the telephone to make a theatre or sports booking, we may neeed to wait in a queue until an operator answers our call.You can't actualy see the queue, but everyone understands that one exists and you will not be surprised if you are advised 'to wait your turn in the queue'.Or similarily you may need to wait your turn in a queue to be served at a restaurant, even though you are sitting down. If you are unable to the meaning of queue in this context then you clearly don't want to understand because you are not interested in a genuine debate on 'illegals' who barge their way into OZ so they can suck off the Welfare Teat,so generously provided by the Aussie taxpayer. So anyone with a modicum of commonsense and a lack of PC, can readily see there are numerous queues all over the world, full of people who want to to savour the Welfare Benefits so generously provided, at the taxpayers expense, by Western nations. And they are barging and pushing their way into Australia, ahead of many others who have been waiting patiently in queues all over the world!
30% of boat people being illegal aliens is a hell of a lot don`t you think? Sorry, I forgot, you don`t. I can`t see how anyone could fail to pass our slack criteria.
What a ridicilous range between 70 and 97.I'm glad you don't workk in the Commonwealth Statistician's Office.Working with such a wide 'range' you would soon attain a more secure job as the Tea boy/girl(assuming such jobs still exists of course).
Enough with the opinions, that is not fact. Post some god (*)(*)(*)(*)ed evidence to back up your unprovable claims or concede the debate already. This is getting tiring.
