Bob Brown - de facto Prime Minister of Australia

Sounds like youre another intelligent, well-informed Labor voter !!

 

Have you ever voted for anyone on the basis of their actual policies? Because right now I'm a bit ashamed to regard myself as right of center.

 

The only people who voted for Gillard are those who live in her electorate.

 

I applaud this effort to educate the uninformed.

But I suspect scorn and spite will be your rewards - that's if the response will rise above the usual grunt and moan.

 

No, I can honestly, that is correct. But my implication was that
if you are a Labor supporter, you show your support for Big Julie by
voting for your local Labor member. In effect a vote for the local yobo
is a vote for Big Julie. However, I do stand corrected on this minor,
pedantic issue.

 

Remember, the Prime Minister is just the leader of the party that has the control of the Lower House........ by convention, not constitutional law. Kevin Rudd was such a leader, lost the support of his party, who had control fo the Lower House and as such Gillard became PM without a vote by the Australian public. Why? Because that's how it works.

Technically all the parliament is is a bunch of people who represent an electorate who bicker and fight and compromise to get some of what they want passed. Bob Brown has as much right to have his say as anyone.

 

Nah, a lot of people vote Labor/Liberal based on the leaders of the party rather than for their actual electoral members. Getting all a bit presidential these days.

 

No, I never said that.

I'm suggesting that any voter who follows a how-to-vote-card is stupid.

 

Yes, and even those people weren't electing her as PM.

Still, some people just don't get it

 

Sad, but true.

And many Australian voters don't seem to realise that our systems are completely different.

 

They may well be but it has no basis constitutionally.

 

Yes, I am intelligent and well-informed. No - I generally don't vote for labor.

But I am aware that Labor didn't involve Australia in an illegal war that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

Labor didn't lie about "children overboard".

Labor didn't allow a so-called "ally" to illegally imprison and allegedly torture Australian citizens

The Liberal Party did those things, and some of the people responsible for that garbage are still involved with that Party.

 

That may well be, but it has no basis on reality

 

Yeah, mostly lazy, unthinking morons. Labor gets the majority of their votes from this group. Labor actively encourages people to think this way, forget everything else, vote for the personality.

 

Yes, I totally agree.

 

Lots of things in our political system (like the PM and C) don't have a basis constitutionally. Doesn't stop them from existing in reality.

@Adultmale: And I'm sure the unthinking morons that used to vote for One Nation now vote for the Liberals, plenty of morons to go around.

 

A bit of trivia for you, EVERY one of mister magoo's posts has this emoticon:

I wonder how young he is.

 

I wonder if he's bulimic?

 

Gday folks Im back...

Read the following...Tony Abbott says cabinet paper reveals Julia Gillard once backed Coalition's climate policy

UPDATED Joe Kelly
From:The Australian
July 25, 2011

JULIA Gillard faces new pressure over her climate change convictions as Tony Abbott seized on a report that she previously pushed for a bipartisan approach that didn't involve a carbon tax or an emissions trading scheme.

Mr Abbott today questioned what Ms Gillard stood for, saying her post-election carbon tax plan had been dictated by the Greens.

“What that shows is that the Prime Minister's attacks on our policy aren't genuine,” Mr Abbott told ABC radio today.

“It demonstrates that the policy that the government is currently adopting is Bob Brown's policy. Not Julia Gillard's policy.”

The Australian Financial Review reported that Ms Gillard, as deputy prime minister, had encouraged the Rudd government's “kitchen cabinet” to shelve plans for a carbon price in favour of other alternatives.

The report was potentially extremely damaging for Ms Gillard, who with Treasurer Wayne Swan urged Kevin Rudd to dump his emissions trading scheme.

Late today, Ms Gillard denied she had ever believed Australia could reach its emissions targets without a price on carbon.

“I'll make it very clear that those matters reported today have no veracity of truthfulness to them,” she told reporters in Canberra.

“I have never believed that this nation could reach its minus five per cent emissions reduction target other than by putting a price on carbon.”

However Mr Abbott said it appeared Ms Gillard had backed the Coalition's direct action policy.

“No-one can take her seriously,” he said.

“The nearest we get to `real Julia' when it comes to climate change policy is the note that she gave to the inner cabinet just before she became prime minister herself where she said what the government should do is embrace the kind of policy the Coalition's got.”

The fallback position advocated in Ms Gillard's paper was rejected by the Rudd inner-sanctum.

Opting instead to defer any further attempt to legislate an emissions trading scheme until after the next election, Mr Rudd and his ministers thought Ms Gillard's proposal would hand Mr Abbott a political advantage.

In a paper titled “The bipartisan solution” , Ms Gillard reportedly urged senior colleagues to set aside contentious aspects of the government's climate change policy for so long as Mr Abbott remained opposition leader.

She reportedly lobbied for a new policy to achieve Australia's five per cent emissions reduction target by 2020 without pricing carbon, submitting the proposal for consideration to the Strategic Priorities and Budget Committee of Cabinet.

What is the point of a carbon tax if the total emissions from China, USA and
India in 14 hours equal that of Australias emissions over 12 months...
Seems to me that all the pollution is going into the same atmosphere...
Its a bit like trying to empty a swimming pool with a teaspoon whilst at
the other end USA India and China are filling it up with a tanker...hhhmmm

Bat(*)(*)(*)(*) Bob Brown tells Juliar what to do...its pretty obvious isnt it...
what with the Marriage Act to be amended to give gays the right to marry,
the carbon tax, the ruination of the fishing industry if bat(*)(*)(*)(*) goes
ahead with that....aaahh well Australia is slowing going down the gurglar...
qld hasnt even got a police force......but thats another story....

 

I love Abbots spin on this. Quite clearly the opposition have adopted Gillards previous policy on carbon pricing because they have lacked the basic intelligence to formulate their own policy. Now they are claiming it as their own. Clever political semantics but nothing else.

 

LMAO

Sooooo, how's the Malaysia Solution going?

Fancy lacking the basic intelligence that you,

Scrap a policy that was working.....

Lie about your alternative.....

Then sign a policy with Malaysia...

To do exactly what the Libs had done....

Then go on TV claiming to have already stopped the boats with your "NEW" policy...

Oh no, but let's bawl on abot Abbott!

PMSL, how duped can you be?

 

Jeeez I forgot about the Malaysian solution...sounds like a title
for a good thriller....but its just another labour stuffup....aaah well...
"Plastic" Anna Bligh will be the next to go, ....they got rid of that
knucklehead in NSW....then after plastic Anna....the next one to go
will be Calamity Jane....sorry Calamity Juliar...another redhead with
no brains.....look at moi Kevvy....look at moi Kevvy......
What a fiasco...women in politics...about as useful as a racecaller
that stutters.....

Have a good day everyone ...just watch Labour self destruct all around
us......

 

Funny thing is that every time the labor party has an idea of their own they go and stuff it up and it costs the taxpayer a lot of money, its ok though cos the carbon tax money will cover it aye...hahahha

I would hate to think of the policies ( bribes) that get rolled out when we get to have an election. The labor party will start throwing money all over the place to try buy some votes, but its not going to save them,just limit the damage done...

 

Unfortunately, I am not too sure that NSW has done any better with this new government. It would seem they have no solutions to the problem the state is in now. But it is only early yet, time will tell. They have to reverse the out flow of business from the state before there will be any change in the state.

 

Its going to be hard to turn NSW around.
They are going to need a lot of time to get it going the way it should but i have faith they will. It would be good though if they got the roads under control and stopped the bloody stupid bike and bus lanes some loon has put in place...