Bob Brown - de facto Prime Minister of Australia

If you google "compulsory green rating" you just may find what youre looking
for...now go and play with your toys sonny....

 

Hmmm,

negativity is something some people can be quite proud off, without any given/valid reason to proof their point.

Okay, let's assume he would become PM one day, what would possibly change?

Our desert would create solar energy for the whole region, at least that is what I hope.

Our cars/trucks/industry would become cleaner, what's wrong with that?

We might not join the US in another war for no real given reason, which I know would leave some people struggling for idendity...

We might not sell plutonium abroad, which I really hope for, especially after Japan. Again I'm aware, some people just don't want the facts...

People working in coal mines would work in other fields, for renewables eg.
Again nothing wrong there. It only means shifting the workforce from the known polluters to the non polluting industry.

And in 2 or 3 decades we might be able to catch up with the rest of the world.

I just attented a meating in Praque, first time in an ex-commu country. Was driving for a couple of hundred ks through their country side, guess what?

Every f..cking little town or village has their own solar panel field!!!!

I would never have believed that those guys are really acting on climate change.

And were do we stand? At the bottom of the ladder.

Even the fricking Kiwis act on carbon. We are the idiots, the uneducated ones!

I think Bob Brown should be given a fair go, Aussie style.

Cheers

 

m2catter....youre obviously a tree hugger...why dont you open your eyes sonny
...maybe even read one of my previous posts which lists thirty odd new taxes
that commie bob wants to bring in...hold old are you ....18 perhaps....
you wouldnt know squat....

 

So, I gather you do not know about the policy that the Howard government introduced during his term of governance that has already reduced the emissions of vehicles and industry without taxing the people? In your assessment Howard did nothing? emissions have not changed?

Do you really know how many people work in these so called renewable industries? or do you understand that most of the labour force movement will be to bureaucracy which actually produces nothing? Idealism at best, However, you are making the same mistakes that the greens are, no understanding of impact of policy.

No, at that rate, Australia will continue to fall behind the rest of the world as they are always trying to play catch-up. If the Greens Where to implement their policies then it would strangle Australia's industry and economy not enabling Australia to catch anybody.

So, where do they grow the food to feed these people? How much of the energy is produced in these country towns? Just because you see it does not mean it is good.

You obviously do not know of the actions of past governance or you would not make such statements

what about the rest of the world? other nations who are actually dropping these great policies that the Gillard\Brown government proclaim as the ONLY way?

Brown has had a fair go. The fact that the Greens have shown that they actually have no consideration for the people of the planet would seem to be OK to you. Animals are treated far better than the human population with laws inhibiting abuse, neglect and we hear more about the animals down the road being neglected than we do about the people of this planet that these ideology of the Greens will hurt. Australia has Laws that in farming land of you do not plant crops on an acreage for more than 5 years you need to get environmental approval to simply put tractor to land, which can be refused for native vegetations reasons, which effectively removes land for production of food for the reason of thistles.

Just his stupid actions with the Queen, while visiting Australia. How much stupidity should the Australian population have to put up with to ' be given a fair go, Aussie style.'

Cheers BUD

 

People are being conned into supporting the Greens by their insidious, slimey
attitudes...commie bob and his cronies need to be put on a slow boat to China...
...with Juliar as the navigator...

 

LOL i agree ROFL

 

What a f..ing nonsense....

 

ummm not it isnt.

Read for yourself the greens manifesto and that of the post war communist party..
once you do come back and have a chat

 

Mate, it is the 21 century, wake up, go to a decent school, travel the planet and realize that you are 500 years too late...

 

I have,and Im not too late....dont forget to get mummy to tuck you in
tonight sonny....

 

Mate,
since when do we in Australia set the standard in emissions?
You must be kidding me. All we do is import cars, and the ones we build eg. Commodores and Falcons are using petrol guzzling motors.
If John Howard would have cared about our nation, you would be able to get a Commodore or Falcon with smaller motors. No, we do get fricking Eurocars and those very often not with the latest technology, too complacent, aren't we?
Secondly, why not use surrounding fields or bushland or the desert to create our own energy? One day, when we (*)(*)(*)(*)ed the planet up completely, we won't need to grow any more food, you are right there.
Your position is typical, if others don't act, we don't need to act. Go and tell it your grandchildren one day, ones everything is ruined, that you didn't care.
By the way, most western countries are already doing much much more without whinging....
Believe it or not, we need the Greens, although there are some topics on their agenda, I don't like. Nothing is perfect...
Cheers mate

 

I can live with gay people, and if they want to marry, why not? Their choice...
No coal fired powerplants in 10 years, excellent....
No rodeos? Couldn't care less....
No live cattle trade? Long overdue...
More tax on petrol? Absolutely, if not introduced people just don't care!
As I said, 21st century...

 

You left out all the taxes sonny...nite nite..have you got your teddy bear...

 

WHat would you replace them with? "green" energy CANOT replace the base load power we get from coal. Add to that the fact that using good farming land to put the stupid windmills on causes more problems that its worth...

Spoken like a true city slicker there...
ever been to one? You do realize that the small town rodeos are how country folk get together and have some fun, have a day out. Dont criticize something you obviously know nothing about.

I work in the trade and find that point of view rather amussing..some city people have NO idea at all.... The animals are worth more as live export to us than to just ship them to a local slaughterhouse. Indo WONT take the meat if we butcher it here..do some research before making reall silly comments.

how about us that have to drive vast distances to get work done. City "greenies" like to think the world can get by with no cars but in reality it cant and to tax fuel further would just penalize those of us that live in the bush. I bet if we passed all those extra costs onto you city folk you would be jumping up and down screaming your heads off.

Your vision of it is rather scary, not very well thought out and selfish...please try again

 

mcatter2 see post 62 and tell me how you will enjoy paying all those taxes
proposed by commie bob...sleep tight sonny...

 

this vid explains why people vote for the greens..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_MBwQhGgA&feature=player_embedded#at=13

 

luvit...

 

Even some members of the labor party ( and at least one mp i know of) compare the greens to the commies.

The inner city bleeding heart brigade that know nothing of the bush vote for the greens thinking that they are doing the right thing...poor disillusioned folk. You vote would be better cast for the national party

 

Efjay,
you are obviously against any change, and happily stay in medieval times.
With solar panles we can dramatically reduce the energy we need right now from coal fired power stations.
It's a beginning. I don't know about the standards and possibilities in 10 or 20 years time, and with a mindset like yours we will remain were we are, one of the biggest polluters on the planet.
Yes, I have attented a rodeo and just don't like the bull(*)(*)(*)(*)! Everone to his/her liking.
With higher taxes on fuel people (like you as well) will look to get more efficient cars in the future, maybe one day we can buy Commodores or Falcons with a hightec 4 Cylinder motors. Until the industry is pushed by the buyers or the govenment, nothing will change.
Regarding live cattle transports, those animals have a right as well....at least until they die they should be kept in a life respecting enviroment....
Sorry mate, not much we agree on...

 

You had better start voting Lib/Nat coalition them mate. It was John Howard that brought in subsidies for solar panels and solar power setups on your house and a subsidy to convert your car to gas. Big John was also in the process of planning a massive expansion of the ethanol industry. It was Kruddy Clown who subsquently axed all the subsidies and Juliar who increased taxes on clean renewable fuels like ethanol and biodiesel and refused to support carbon sequestration technology.

 

Knock knock

Commie Bob: who's there...
Knocker: KGB Comrade Bob...
Commier Bob: Just a second Comrade...
(Opens door)
KGB enter...hugs and kisses all round...
KGB: Comrade Bob, we come from Moscow with a message from Viktor Kovlovsky..we are interested in speaking to you about another way to
screw the Aussie people...
Commie Bob:...Yes, yes, yes...Im always interested in more taxes...
KGB...Viktor thinks you could tax them every time they have a leak...
Commie Bob: Unfortunately, cant be done....
KGB: Why not...
Commie Bob: Well...you see....theres no carbon in urine....
KGB: Oohh....what about taxing them every time they have sex...
Commie Bob...You mean male or female...
KGB: Both, comrade...
Comrade Bob: Hhhmmm...I dont think so,...you see the Carbon Police
would have too much unpaid overtime...besides the paperwork would be
astronomical...
KGB...hhmm..oh well...we will report back to Viktor....by the way, is there
a bread queue around here...
Commie Bob...Yes there is one just around the corner...opposite Juliar and
Vladimirs cabbage shop...
Commie Bob...By the way how is Svetlana and Uri...
KGB...Oh they are well...they still live near the Kremlin, but are planning on
moving to Australia and joining the Greens...maybe obtain an endorsement
and gain another seat for the party...
Commie Bob...Will you stay for a vodka, comrades..
KGB...No, Im afraid we must leave now...goodbye comrade...you are doing
a great job...keep creating those new taxes, my friend....

 

As the Libs have been running the show in WA for some time now I can tell you that the subsidies for solar panels have been reduced. That is what we don't need.
It looks to me that as soon a certain number of people has decided to go for this sort of energy the government is pulling the trigger.
Maybe our local energy producers are keen not to give their market away.
And boy, in our coorperate Australia nothing surprises me anymore.
Whether left or right, anything goes...
Cheers

 

Mate, you are a funny one.
You should write books, maybe children books, so the level is not creating a major drama for you. But then, who would want their children to be exposed to lies?
I once heard that with the introduction of the GST other taxes will be dropped. Didn't happen in WA, but maybe there is another WA on the planet...
When it comes to taxes, we are srewed from the far left to the far right....

 

Welll...yeeahh

 

AS I suggested, you agree, you know nothing of the Howard government policy to reduce emissions that did not involve a tax or subsidies. You only needed to say that you did not, rather than rant.

So you can not answer that question either? So you suggest that instead of using food producind land, used for growing food, we chop down that bushland and fill it with what? Rather defeating the purpose of the Green policy isn't it? Sure fill the deserts of the world with energy production and kill the eco-systems of those deserts, Again against Green policy? You haven't thought this through have you, just as the Greens.

Yeah, I don't think hypocritical stances on this is the way to go. I don't think playing CATCH UP is the right way. I love the fact that you are in the doom and gloom set, when you do not know the real impact of the policy you proclaim to follow.

Yes we do need Greens, Just not the religious zealots in politics. They very often show the hypocritical stances so blatantly obviously that people such as yourself believe it is acceptable for them to do.

I once saw an interview with the then head of the Greens movement protesting A highway that would cut through the bottom of a forest. The interview was held at the this persons house which was built in the middle of this forest. A log cabin cut from the surrounding forest, sitting on tree stumps from which the logs to build the house where cut. The road constructed to lead up from the nearest access to get to the house. For one house. THAT IS ACCEPTED BY THE GREENS. In fact that one person destroyed more of the forest to build their home and access than the entire duel lane highway was going.