BREAKING: CURRENT EVENT A Majority of Americans DO NOT support gay marriage. WAPO

This just in, May 14, 2012:

The article goes on to discuss how if polling is done asking people if they prefer civil unions instead they opt for that compromise. Adding those who are opposed to gay marriage outright to those who prefer civil unions to gay marriage a clear majority is seen to be against gay marriage.

How do you feel? Vote before this topic is selectively removed from current events, which it very much is and one of the most viewed topics on PF.

 

Here for instance, out of 67 voters [a very high participation # for PF] 85% voted against promoting a "gay hero" to kids in California schools. http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/246295-californians-set-boycott-harvey-milk-day-54.html 85% in political terms is what you would call a landslide majority.

Yet we are constantly fed misinformation that "a majority of Americans" support gay inroads into mainstream cultural mores, like marriage.. There's something fishy in Denmark.

 

Its aleady a known fact a majority do support it. This thread is a lie and should be deleted.

 

Option 5: "Civil Unions only for both gays and straights".

 

OOOOOH another bash the gays thread.

Maybe people should mind their own business, and live their own lives. I don't know maybe get a hobby.

 

Obsession.

 

I support equality, as do I think the majority

 

As your poll didn't include a "support getting government(s) out of the marriage business altogether" option, I couldn't vote.

 

Its painfully obvious you are correct.

31 states have laws against gay marriage. For those a little slow that would be a majority of states

33 direct votes on gay marriage by the people in the United States. All of them voted against gay marriage.

The majority have spoken.

Homosexuality has never been proven to be anything more than a choice either therefore it cannot be equated to things that are genetic like race and heterosexuality no matter how hard the far left wants to.

The most hysterical claim the militant far left makes is that they support "rights" and "equality" but when you point out there are other sexual preferences they don't like those don't get these new "rights" or "equality" and they try to hide behind current law that bans those sexual practices while having the intellectual dishonesty to pretend that doesn't fly in the face of their desire to ban laws that ban gay marriage right now.


And of course when you point out these facts the gay militants resort immediately to name calling because they can't debate them. homophobe, bigot etc. all moronic attempts to avoid the truth they can't debate the facts.

 

And the constitution has this thing called the full faith and credit clause that requires all states to recognize public records from all other states.
Marriage is a public record. So a marriage in Mass has to be recognized in Miss.
DOMA blatantly goes against the constitution, and will fall, this will require same sex marriage to be recognized in every state.

 

Sez the member who abused a thread by obsessively reposting a large, identical photo every few minutes for over an hour.

Hilarious.

 

LOL which is completely false

The Full Faith and Credit Clause has also been invoked to recognize the validity of a marriage. Traditionally, every state honored a marriage legally contracted in any other state. However, in 1993, the Hawaii Supreme Court held that Hawaii's statute restricting legal marriage to parties of the opposite sex establishes a sex-based classification, which is subject to Strict Scrutiny if challenged on Equal Protection grounds (Baehr v. Lewin, 852 P.2d 44, 74 Haw. 530). Although the court did not recognize a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, it raised the possibility that a successful equal protection challenge to the state's marriage laws could eventually lead to state-sanctioned same-sex marriages. In response to the Baehr case, Congress in 1996 passed the Defense of Marriage Act (110 Stat. § 2419), which defines marriage as a union of a man and a woman for federal purposes and expressly grants states the right to refuse to recognize a same-sex marriage performed in another state.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Full+Faith+and+Credit+Clause

Deal with the law on the books not what you wish it to be.

 

IF the FF&C didn't apply, then why was it included in DOMA?

 

So is marriage not a public act, or record?

 

Protection from something that might be tried. It is pretty common to add inclusive or exclusive language to bills to help reduce the chances of loopholes or creative legal acrobatics from invalidating the law. The full faith and credit clause has never been invoked in relation to a marriage, even when many states outlawed interracial marriages and refused to acknowledge the interracial marriages from other states.

 

So if you know that it's going to be selectively removed from current events, then why post it in current events?

 

You're becoming a broken record with a broken message. Get help.

 

That would be my vote. Leave your neighbors alone... and in turn you should be able to expect the same.

 

What has Calvin Klein got to do with any of it?

 

I like to call it legal parity and I hope you're right about your second point.

 

That's my vote--well, my vote would be "no government marriage at all" but we've gotten too accustomed to the government nanny so I don't see that happening as much as I'd like to.

 

Indeed. My vote as well.

 

Trouble with polls is that you can get the results you want if you word it right. Given the choice of calling it a marriage or civil union, I believe most would opt for civil union.

 

Your cite does not support your case. DOMA is unconstitutional--or at least directly contradictory to one of the Constitution's foundational principles. Or at worst, it's a dangerous precedent. You realize that your Texas license plate is only valid in New Mexico, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and the 54 other states because of FF&C, right? Now there's a legal precedent. Maybe Alabama doesn't want you Texans with your grille-mounted beer coolers and your gun racks on your F350s. The door is now open for any challenge to FF&C. We really ought to be very very careful when we tinker with the Constitution.