Breaking News: Man That Exposed Dan Rather's False Documents Say Obama's BC A Forgery

None of which is relevant to his eligibility, so why is it being posted in this thread?

No, it doesn't. The issuing authority has already verified its authenticity. Any forensic examination would be inferior to that statement.

What you're saying is equivalent to going to your DMV, getting a drivers' license, having the lady hand it to you and say, "here's your license, sir," and then saying "I demand a forensic examination to determine if this license is real!"

It's ridiculous.

 

Well since your claim starts out with a lie and finishes with a lie, not sure what I am supposed to other than point out the lies....

Oh and that once again....completely unrelated to eligibility, but then again Birthers can't seperate eligibilty from character attacks...because they decided first that they dislike his character and then decided he must not be eligible.

 

now that's just downright condescending, better get your milk and cookies

 

i haven't heard obama or the campaign use the word "transparency" so much lately. why wouldn't barack just finish this ?, instead of having millions of people everyday think why wouldn't he just show it. we know he likes fanfare and a change to get some attention, then he could be summarily reelected.

 

what does macdougald think of the president's forged birth certificate and faked past ?

 

What does MacDougald think about flying saucers and Area 52 and all the other conspiracy theories?

 

He did show it.

How do you propose he show it this time? Another press conference to say, "Ok, here it is again"? How many of those would he have to have before you believe it?

That's a rhetorical question, obviously; believing that Obama is eligible would mean all this has been a huge waste of time for you, and your delusion won't allow you to come to grips with that.

 

now, i'm pretty sure gibbs told the press that he did see it and put it up on the internet... but then three years later he put a second one up on the internet... but two people have seen the original, if there is one.. too many questions still remain here.. like, why not have just shown the original in the first place ?? or now. you see we're really right back to square one.. should be interesting..

 

what does area 51 think about you ??

 

He displayed a certificate of live birth at the 4/27/11 press conference, to everyone in attendance.

That certificate was verified by the State of Hawaii as being authentic and correct.

Therefore, he did "show it," and nothing about what you said changes that.

 

so you don't want to answer why it took a couple of trys, that's cool. obamavich doesn't either.. let's see what congress does.

 

Most members of Congress can read... so don't concern yourself.

 

Why what took a couple of tries???

They already did. They confirmed the electoral vote and confirmed Obama's rightful election as President.

They're not doing anything else. Ever. Unless you count possibly confirming Obama's reelection next year. Your suggestion that they are going to investigate anything is patently stupid.

 

All these Napoleons in the padded cells don't give up, do they? It is the spirit that made Atlantis great and proved the Queen shot Kennedy with a long-distance rifle!

 

This is not a reply to Wash- who actually knows what I am going to say in response to his wall of misinformation. This is for any poor sucker who happens to stumble across this thread without any knowledge of Birthers.

A Brief history of President Obama's birth certificates and the Birthers who resolutely are determined to refuse any possibility that Obama is eligible.

Back in 2007, malicious emails were already circulating, spreading lies about President Obama- most of them based upon his race, his religion and nastier stuff. One of the rumors was that his real middle name was Mohammed(because remember one of the lies was that he was a secret MOOOOOOSLIM). Obama's requested a copy of his birth certificate from the State of Hawaii in case they ever needed to prove his correct name.

In June or July of 2008, responding to various malicious rumors, the Obama campaign posted a copy of the official state issued birth certificate on their website, and distributed copies to various websites. At this point, Barack Obama became the first and only Presidential candidate ever to show the American public his proof of eligiblity.

Immediately, Proto-Birthers started rumors that these were forgeries- after all they were just 'images on the internet'- anyone could have created them. In response to those rumors, Factcheck.org- a reputable independent fact checking(duh) organization sent two people to the Obama campaign headquarters and looked at the original, took high resolution photo's and confirmed that the original published on the internet was indeed on hand, and appeared to be sealed and authentic. No other group or news agency expressed any interest in looking at the original.

This of course drove the Birthers nuts. By this time Birther mania was started to build up some steam. Birthers at this point of course attacked Factcheck and accused them of being in the pocket of Obama, and created a plausible sounding, though false linkage.

Birthers noted that no one from the State of Hawaii confirmed that this was an authentic birth certificate. Except of course until someone did. Then Birthers said she hadn't said it correctly. And bombarded the State of Hawaii with requests for confirmation.

So then the Director of Health of Hawaii did something unprecedented in Presidential history. She confirmed that the State of Hawaii did have the original birth certificate on file, and that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and was indeed a natural born citizen.

Well understandably, this made Birthers even crazier. They tried to parse Dr. Fukino's words, and tried to ignore that she had said that he was born in Hawaii. One poster here demanded to know how she was qualified to state who was a natural born citizen- ironically while at the same time stating his opinion that Barack Obama could not be a natural born citizen.

Pretty much in the end, the Birthers position was that either Dr. Fukino- a Republican appointed by a Republican governor- was corrupt or that she hadn't really said what she had so clearly said.

So the Birthers demand shifted. "We need to see a certified copy of the real original- you know a copy of the original showing the names of the doctor and the hospital Obama was born in"- saying that without the name of the doctor and the hospital the birth certificate wasn't a real birth certificate and couldn't be verified.

Obama ignored the Birthers for the better part of two years, because he had actual work to do and there was no reason to indulge the foot stamping of his political opponents. But when Donald Trump stepped up onto the national platform and started spreading lies about the President's origin, Obama and voters noticed.

So Obama did something else unprecidented. He wrote the State of Hawaii and asked them for an exemption from their standard of issueing only computer generated birth certificates, and asked them to send a certified copy of his original birth certificate- the copy that Birth certificate that Birthers demanded that they needed to see- with the name of the attending doctor and the hospital.

The new Director of Health of Hawaii, using her authority, went and personally supervised the copying of the original, along with Alvin Onaka, the Registrar of Records, had two copies certified, and given to Obama's attorney, who hand carried it to the President.

The President then held a press conference where he showed the certified copies of the original to reporters, let them be passed around, and then had these copies also published on the internet for every voter to see.

At the same time, the State of Hawaii published on its own website, a confirmation from the current Director of Health, that she too had seen the original and confirmed that the original that the President had shown the public was correct. At this point, the total came to two Directors of Health for Hawaii, the Registrar of Records for Hawaii and two Governors of Hawaii who all attested to the fact that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

I will also point out that Barack Obama at this point has produced two legal copies of his birth certificate for the American people to see for themselves, and that they were verified by the very state that issued them. There is no Presidential candidate in history who has produced this level of evidence of eligiblity.

At this point, all but the seriously hardcore full Birthers realized there was no 'there' there and drifted away. But we have learned that no evidence is considered evidence by the hardcore Birthers.

Despite their earlier claims that they really needed to see the original with the name of the hospital and doctors, Birthers, as predicted, came up with new bizarre claims. My favorite is that the copy posted on the internet is a fraud, and they ignore the originals, and ignore that the State of Hawaii has confirmed copy posted on the internet. Of course Birthers have also claimed that both Directors of Health must be corrupt- apparently because they say that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii- Birthers offer no evidence to support these malicious attacks on Fukino and the current Director of Health.

Now we have Wash asking why didn't Obama show his original in the first place. Now Wash knows the answer to the question, but asks it merely to try to stir the pot more. The correct answer is that Barack Obama is the only candidate to ever show the American voters his original birth certificate and that Birthers repeatedly lied and said that the first birth certificate he published was not a legal birth certificate. And that in the end to make Donald Trump look like a bigger buffoon than he is, President Obama requested Hawaii produce a second legal copy of his birth certificate- the exact BC that Birthers claimed that was necessary.

Now Wash says that Obama needs to lead a team of commando's to raid Hawaii's birth certificate vault so that Orly Taitz can see the original on file in Hawaii for herself.

While at the same time, Wash has never shown the slightest bit of interest in whether any other Presidential candidate is eligible.

Let us review the current candidates for President and the evidence they have offered for eligibility and Wash's demands:

Barack Obama: shown the American voters two perfectly legal birth certificates, had his birth confirmed by his state of Birth
Wash demands he provide more proof.

Bachmann: nothing
Wash doesnt' ask for any proof.
Gingrich: nothing
Wash doesn't ask for any proof.
Perry: nothing
Wash doesn't ask for any proof.
Santorum: nothing
Wash doesn't ask for any proof.

Wash is just reflecting the reality for all Birthers. The facts don't lie.

Birthers are huge, huge hypocrites. It has never been about eligiblity for them, it has always, always only been about Obama.

 

more proof...


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se5zvGF6u9g&feature=related"]Obama ADMITS Born in Kenya!!! - YouTube[/ame]

 

nowhere in that video did obama say he was born in kenya.

you have been caught lieing once again. wash.

 

LOLOL.. What else?

Obama's mother was a US citizen and he was born in Hawaii.... Its a non issue.

 

He said:

"Lots of ups, lots of downs, except for my approval ratings which have just gone down. But that's politics; it doesn't bother me. Besides, I happen to know that my approval ratings are still very high in the country of my birth."

What was said next??? When and where was this speech given?

 

maybe he was really born on mars? there's exactly the same amount of evidence of a martian birth, as there is a kenyan one.

 

I see the similarities... but think Nixon was smarter than Obama. Look at how many passes Barack's gotten from MSM? How could he ever be accused of wrongdoing with so many powerful people fawning over him?

Time will tell, eh?

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Why did Michelle call Kenya his home country instead of his ancestral country?
At the very least it's a foolish oversight and an inadvertent insult to America.

YouTube of Michelle speaking

 

This viddy explains the differences in birth status and why it matters.

A specific explanation of birth status and why it matters

 

that "viddy" does nothing for your case. the only thing that matters is that obama was born on US soil, to parents who were not diplomats, making him a natural born citizen.

the entire judiciary agrees by the way.