Can ALL cultures fit in?

Seems the Sudanese struggle....

"A third wild brawl believed to involve young Sudanese men breaks out in Melbourne in as many nights, leaving three people in hospital"

http://www.smh.com.au/victoria/third-brawl-as-street-violence-escalates-20110427-1dvhd.html

 

Indian student bashed....

By Africans....

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/...h-knuckledusters/story-fn6t2xlc-1226045492609

How multicultural can you get!

 

Plenty of Australians beat each other up around the place. What's your point? Why single out these people?

Don't any Australians beat up on others? Is it exclusively the multicultural element that beats up on others.

Sure, all cultures can fit in. You're just an intolerant sort, that's all.

Just got back from Bluesfest, more than a hundred thousand people getting along, fancy that, Oxyboy. 30,000 people at Dylan, all well-behaved. We all fitted in just fine.

 

Yep and 80,000 stood in silence at the MCG ANZAC day.

So?

3 maassive brawls in 3 nights, on the back of continuing unrest in detention centers, warranted discussion, IMO.

Can we no longer discuss these things? Do you have to make everything personal?

 

Oxyboy,
not surprised to see such a threat started by you. You are such a racist, it doesn't occur to you that we are all the same, does it? Always singeling out foreigners. And what has Anzac to do with all that?
I live in Western Australia, and not in Perth. Whenever things go wrong, the majority of those fights/crimes/glassings/bashings/missbehavings are committed by our own folks, white born Australians, very sorry to say.
I would be happy if that wouldn't be the case, but its the truth.
I hope I haven't spoiled your hatred vision too much,
regards

 

An emotive issue, but alas just another personal attack, poor haters can’t discuss anything.

And they’re off…

For the 2009/10 period in Victoria our ANZAC mates committed 725 assaults, well ahead of the innocent Indians who wouldn’t hurt a fly with 375 assaults (they all must have been Aussies dressed up as Indians because Indians are so peaceful and always only ever the victim )…..they have a clear lead….but wait, here comes Sudan with an impressive 336 assaults, a 1/3 in Dandenong alone!

Considering the population of NZ’s and Indians, along with Vietnamese (234 assaults) and Chinese (175 assaults) in Victoria, it would appear the Sudanese are over represented in these figures.

No one charged, no one talking.

Many of these people come from such horrific back grounds, lawlessness, killings etc. I hope they can learn to live in peace.

 

I know you are going to be disappointed but the fact is we are not all the same. 'We' come from vastly different backgrounds, have vastly different world views, have vastly different morals, values, beliefs and ideals. Tolerance and personal ambitions are also issues of difference, as with philosophical and logical processes when evaluating our own plans and actions and the plans and actions of others. Many people from other cultures do not have anything like the same regard for the sanctity of life that we Australians have and have little concept of the rights of others.

 

I would like to see your source on these figures , thanks.

 

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mo...of-life-for-some/story-fn7x8me2-1226045873069

Welcome.

 

Im sorry, its a beat up and I dispute these statistics. The alleged source is the Victorian police department who were allegedly asked to compile statistics specifically for this newspaper, the methodology used is not mentioned and I suspect it relies completely on the arresting officers bothering to tick the right boxes.

 

LOL and so say you!

Source Victorian Police Figures 2009/10.

What's the use in denying this? The methodology used? They broke up assaults into couinty of origin of the assaulter!

 

Good day mate,
not disappointed at all.
You are probately right with everything you state...
However, wherever I travelled/worked/lived almost all people dreamt the same dream, owning their own place, having enough food, a decent education for their children and access to a doctor when needed. Yes, and a peaceful future without wars...
I think we are much more likely to be the same, despite other reasons.
Reg. m2catter

 

Oh isn't this precious! There's something wrong with the newspaper, there's something wrong with the journalist, something wrong with the TV station, the presenter, the methodology, the source, the time of day, the way they they scratched their arse. Why? because the result is contrary to my dearly held beliefs, they must be wrong.

 

Indeed catter, most people do want pretty much the same things but people from different cultures and backgrounds can have very different ideas of how to get them. There's more to living than wanting things, there is also interacting with other people on both a personal and community level. Wanting the same things does not mean we have the same cares.

 

Yes we can all fit in.

It's not a cultural thing, it's coming from a totally messed up country thing.

They're going to have some issues and they'll take awhile to adjust.

I've been to Sudan, it is not a very nice place and it's very volatile at the moment with all this north vs south stuff.

There's no reason that the 2nd generation won't fit in just fine.

There's lots of alcohol induced young adult violence in melbourne.

 

No, the stats are faulty. Unless the methodology can be confirmed as correct then they are useless. Thats just the way it is in the real world.

 

Well heres the officical crime stats from the Victorian Police dept which bear no relation to the nonsense fabricated figures Oxyboy posted. http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?a=internetBridgingPage&Media_ID=59806
Now read these and tell about dearly held beliefs. Heres a handy tip, to avoid making yourself look stupid always arm yourself with factual information before entering a debate.

 

Just posted the figues supplied by Victoria Police Department, as you have just done LOL.

You are trying to make it sound like i made them up!

This is another of those issues where blind freddy can see whats happening.

 

Can see nothing in those figures where assaults have been broken down into country of origin?

What is your point?

 

Africans generaly destroy every area of the earth they live in any large numbers....

 

Indeed you cant.

My point is that these are the official Victorian Police department statistics, kindly point out where in these statistics it supports your claims.

 

OK i see you are missing something.

The figures were supplied by the Victoria Police Depatment.

Not my claims, not my figures!!

Now if you could point me to where it supports your claim, then we shall progress.

 

No, they werent.

Yes, they are.

I have just posted official statistics of the Victoria Police dept which refute your claims that the Victoria Police dept either collates crime statistics by ethnicity or possesses any such statistics. Theres nothing else to be said, you have no argument unless you can supply your source as requested initially. Simply posting a news article that makes the unauthenticated claim that these statistics allegedly exist does not consitute a reliable source Im afraid and if you take anything away from this it should be the same advice I offered AdultMale. Dont enter into debates without factual evidence otherwise you look foolish.

 

Yes, they were. The article is right in front of me, it has a table, the table is a break down of assaults according to country of origin of the perpertrator.

No, they are not, the source is quoted - Victorian Police figures.

Your figures refute nothing.

Now, run off and play in the traffic.

 

SUDANESE-born Victorians are the most violent ethnic group in the state, police figures show.


Well i guess if the police dispute their own figures they can complain.