Can people really be asexual?

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  1. tealwings

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    I was combining about 3 topics into one.
    I was thinking of trans genders who get the operation then date women. Bruce Jenner. Maybe it was the media influence, but that whole scenario was just bizarre.
     
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    Just to let you know....and I know you did not say this.....I am anything but a so called NORMAL person.

    But in this case anyone calling themselves ASEXUAL....is just crying out for help.

    And if they are DRESSING THE PART......well then they have some very serious issues they need to deal with.

    Personally although there is a very large percentage of people who dress the part out there who are people who have been very hurt and are dressing androgynous for the purpose of a cry out for help......there is also a small percentage that just do it for fun or for the experience.

    Now as far as those who do it because they are REALLY messed up......well because I am Genetically Hardwired to help people and especially those people who either cannot help themselves or are being subjugated by others which will not allow them to help themselves...well....because of what I am I just seem to draw or attract such people.

    I was in Japan and that is how I know so much about this Androgynous Lifestyle as Japanese girls go WILD over young men who dress up in a manner one cannot tell as David Bowie said...."Not sure if your a boy or a girl?".

    This is expressed in Japan and Korea within the K-pop, J-pop, in anime and manga culture as well.

    But make no mistake...unless you are making MILLIONS OF DOLLARS doing this such in the way Fashionista, DJ and androgynous style icon Usuke Devil is doing.....and you are just a regular person getting dressed up so that no one can tell if your a guy or girl.....YOU HAVE A PROBLEM!! LOL!!

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    Well, I suppose it is possible if an individual has absolutely no sex drive or no interest in sex, however I wouldn't call someone that watches porn and masturbates asexual because they certainly have a sex drive, they may not want a partner but that doesn't make them asexual it makes them anti-social, loaners or just shy.
     
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    And you know if they DON'T have a sexual drive then SOMETHING IS PHYSICALLY WRONG WITH THEM!!!!

    Unless a person is old in the extreme and even men in their 90's can have children.....there is absolutely no reason why a person should not have a sexual drive UNLESS...something is either physically or mentally wrong with them!!

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    And you know if they DON'T have a sexual drive then SOMETHING IS PHYSICALLY WRONG WITH THEM!!!!

    Unless a person is old in the extreme and even men in their 90's can have children.....there is absolutely no reason why a person should not have a sexual drive UNLESS...something is either physically or mentally wrong with them!!

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    I agree, it's usually not physical (unless a dude lost his ding-dong or his balls or something in an accident ) but a "healthy" person may perhaps have a hormonal imbalance or something? That or they may have psychological issues.
     
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    Medications can do it too. Some meds can make you have a low libido.
     
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    Absolutely, however I would assume an "asexual" would realize that's the issue for the lack of sex drive. So I really wouldn't call them asexual because it's just meds.... They probably want to have sex but just cant find the drive unfortunately... Even then I think everyone gets that way sometimes even without medication...
     
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    Yeah.

    Anyways I am in Japan and I went with 2 of my Team Members and a few of our Japanese associates to a Baseball Game which is the equivalent and Japanese version of Red Sox vs. Yankees.

    This is the Hanshin Tigers vs. Yomiuri Giants and the Hanshin Tigers represent the Red Sox and the Yomiuri Giants the Yankees.

    The Hanshin Tigers even have a CURSE...just like the Red Sox did!! LOL!!!

    Curse of the Colonel[edit]
    Main article: Curse of the Colonel
    As with many other underachieving baseball teams, a curse is believed to lurk over the Tigers.[1] After their 1985 Japan Series win, fans celebrated by having people who looked like Tigers players jump into the Dotonbori Canal. According to legend, because none of the fans resembled first baseman Randy Bass, fans grabbed a life-sized statue of Kentucky Fried Chicken mascot Colonel Sanders and threw it into the river (like Bass, the Colonel had a beard and was not Japanese). After many series without a series win, the Tigers were said to be doomed never to win the season again until the Colonel was rescued from the river.

    In 2003, when the Tigers returned to the Japan Series after 18 years with one of the worst records in the Central League, many KFC outlets in Kōbe and Ōsaka moved their Colonel Sanders statues inside until the series was over to protect them from Tigers fans.

    The top half of the statue (excluding its left hand) was finally recovered on March 10, 2009, and the bottom half and left hand shortly after, in the canal by construction workers while constructing a new boardwalk area as part of a beautification project. The KFC outlet where this statue once stood has since closed; the statue is now located at an outlet near Koshien Stadium.

    LINK....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanshin_Tigers

    Anyways I was single at the time as I met a really beautiful Japanese girl about 3 months later and we stayed together for close to 6 months.

    I am at the game and it is in Hanshin Koshien Stadium which is home to the Tigers as the Giants play in the Tokyo Dome. And JUST like the Red Sox....Hanshin Koshien Stadium is the OLDEST STADIUM in Japan just like Fenway Park is the oldest stadium in Baseball......BUT.....IT GET'S BETTER!!!

    BABE RUTH visited Hanshin Koshien Stadium back in the day so there has GOT to be some MOJO going on as far as that!! LOL!!!

    I am watching the game at Hanshin Koshien Stadium and for those that don't know the Japanese Baseball Fans are VERY organized as far as they PRACTICE PERFORMING CERTAIN SONGS OR CHEERS for their team!!

    As I was watching the game and the crowd performing the cheer I noticed a group of 6 young people and as I looked at them I had absolutely no way of telling if they were young men or women!!

    Now I am an EXPERT in observation and I can pretty much discern within a very short period of time what a person is doing...what they have done......and what they will do next and never mind being able to tell if they are a man or woman I can tell if they are telling the truth or lying or tell what they do for living...etc.

    BUT.....as I was about 18 rows down from where this group was I COULD NOT TELL...if they were men or women and I searched for an Adam's Apple and they had shirts that covered their necks or scarfs on...then I checked the distance from their center finger 1st knuckle to the skin fold on the back of their hands but....they had that covered too.

    Now I was getting frustrated so I went with something easier as I checked for breasts or a BULGE in their pants but...NOPE! NADA!! LOL!!

    Then I went and looked at their shoe size but then I realized that in Japan....both men and women have very small feet!!

    So WHAT exactly gave then away??

    The FOOD they ordered!!

    They ordered Boxed Tofu and RIGHT THEN....I KNEW they were female!!

    NO MAN....orders Tofu....even if you are Japanese...at a BALL GAME!!!

    Anyways....I have taken up too much space and time so if anyone want's to find out how I ended up breaking in past the Androgynous Gauntlet....they can ask me any question they like at Ask AboveAlpha anything you want....on that topic on this forum.

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    Yep.

    If you have a disease or illness or if you are injured like I was recently if they give you Oxycodone or Hydrocodone or Demerol...it will effect your sexual drive but in some people it increases it but a guy might be able to have an erection but not be able to achieve climax.

    Any Serotonin Booster will also effect sexual drive.

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    There are a lot of meds that can reduce a person's sex drive. Psychiatric meds can too. Some diabetic and antihypertensive meds can make men impotent too. I guess that's not really asexual because the desire is still there.
     
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    As far as baseball, I'm a Cubs fan and despite Japanese culture being very bizarre, that superstition stuff doesn't surprise me one bit, however I lol'ed when they couldn't find an adequate lookalike for Bass so they chose the Coronal.. lol

    Well, you probably know that youth culture in Japan is very very strange -everything from the way they dress to their subcultures. So I'm not really shocked that you were having a difficult time figuring out if these people were male or female. It almost seems as if young Japanese want to be either as bland and inverted as possible or as extreme and flamboyant-looking as possible. And as far as sex from what I gather it is almost treated as a "job" not as fun, either way Japanese sex culture is not the same as sex culture in the United States....

    Oh and then of course you have these "gamer kids" in Japan that do nothing BUT game all day and you know they're not getting any so they could be asexual...

    I suppose if there is one place in the industrialized world you're going to find the bizarre side to sex and sex culture (at least outside of the US) it would be Japan.

    You know what tho? I find their culture(s) bizarre because they love western culture so you think they would be more 'liberal' (classical sense) when it comes to personality or fashion.... They either take it to the extreme or they're dull, quiet or inverted.

    I mean you can buy used womans panties out of vending machines in Japan - that about sums it up there lol.
     
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    Yeah, too much booze can do it too.... desire is there but it just doesn't work lol.
     
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    LOL!!!

    YOU CAN!!!

    How do you know that if you have never been???

    LOL!!!

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    I read a lot and watch a lot of documentaries...

    These sites can be addicting and can fill your brain with tons of at times useless knowledge.

    www.listverse.com

    www.cracked.com

    Yea, in Japan you can buy just about anything out of vending machines lol... They even sell live crabs.
     
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    What I REALLY love about Japan is all the different foods you can eat!!I am HUGE on Sushi and I have been to a few places in Japan that have Sushi Chefs or.....Itamae.......that are considered the absolute best IN THE WORLD!

    We...a good friend of mine who is in the Japanese Self Defense Forces or JSDF....KNOWS I love Sushi and he talks to his Dad and his Dad uses a BIG FAVOR up to get me into this tiny little place where the worlds best Itamae lives above and works and we have the MEAL OF OUR LIVES!!

    Now you just sit at this very small kind of bar and the Itamae with the help of his apprentice or Wakiita just keep preparing one after the other different types of Sushi and the rule is....NEVER PUT ANYTHING OR CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT THE ITAMAE GIVES YOU!!!

    The Itamae will brush on very expensive soy and do everything for you as what he prepares for you is what you are expected to eat and enjoy and it is AWESOME!!!

    Now I am wealthy but because of what I do and what I was doing in Japan at that time the Itamae told us the meal was on him!!

    I found out later that Tokyo Businessmen wait for YEARS to get a seat at his place and that they are charged between $10,000 and $30,000 per person and although I could easily afford to pay that I just would NEVER shell out that kind of money just for food!!

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    I love sushi too, but not $20,000 sushi lol... We have plenty of fresh sushi joints here in Chicago where you can eat nice for under $50......

    Have you been to a noodle hut yet? where the slurp the noodles? hahaha, god that would be gross.

    Have you tried that deadly puffer fish? I forget the Japanese name for it but if it's not prepared correctly it can kill you in a matter of minutes.

    Of course they eat live squid too.

    Japan sounds interesting and I have always wanted to go but never really had the time, that and I'm not all that familiar with all the customs and I also like to party so.... Also I don't speak Japanese lol so that could be an issue.

    Do the woman like American dudes in Japan?
     
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    Well...here is the thing.....underneath all the ceremony...because there is a LOT of that in Japan as one of th biggest daily deals is the Tea Ceremony and there is an entire learned etiquette one must first know before participating in it.....so underneath all the ceremony and the etiquette and the reserved nature taught and INGRAINED into Japanese Girls and women as this is how they are brought up from birth......there lies some pretty hot and smoking desire!! LOL!!

    Now they actually find American Men attractive in the extreme but as their fathers and grandfathers and great grandfathers have taught them that such attraction to Foreign Men is bad and dishonorable.

    They all us Gaijin and there is about 7 different words in Japanese for Foreigner and they all are derogatory in one fashion or another!! LOL!!

    But the real reason the men hate Male American's who date Japanese women is because American's are listed as #2 in the world right behind the men living in the ranked #1 Congo as far as having a large penis.

    It is a well known fact that Japanese Men have on average on of the smallest penises on Earth and I can tell you FIRST HAND.....they are pretty sensitive to the issue!! LOL!!

    So when I started dating this Japanese Girl..well her Father and Mother HATED MY GUTS!!

    But her Grandfather took a liking to me as I know my WWII History and as well I took the time to learn all the Ceremonies like the Tea Ceremony as well as I could speak Japanese moderately well.

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    Well, considering I'm not that old if I went I probably would be looking for chicks from 20-30 so I doubt their fathers would be old enough to hold much of a grudge over WWII, besides I'd be looking for the freaky anime chicks anyways - they seem pretty open lol.

    Oh and I know all about the penis thing. Remember when I said I watched a lot of documentaries, well I actually watched a documentary about this dude from the US who had a really small dong (and his GF dumped him because of it) so he decided to travel the world sizing dongs up (it's not as gay as it seems, it was actually comical) while making a documentary about it - well he ended up in Japan and it was the most hilarious part of the documentary.... These Japanese guys were doing all kids of bizarre crap to "extend" themselves, like um tying 10 pound weights to their dongs (some "masters" went as high as 50 pounds) and literally lifting the weight off the floor believing it would make them bigger, oh, and then the film maker goes to this park in Japan where there were sculptures of dicks everywhere and these crazy Japanese people were taking pictures with them. For a nation known for small dongs, they seem to have somewhat of an obsession with them...... Oh and I saw a few in the documentary and, well - I have seen babies with bigger penis' than a couple of these guys had...

    So yeah, I'm sure the whole "package" thing has something to do with perhaps why some Japanese woman like western men, but also I read that Japanese woman or the Japanese in general have some kind of obsession with white skin - and I don't mean like European white - but powder white skin, which I find kind of bizarre considering in the west a nice tan is seen as generally attractive.

    IDK, Japan seems like an interesting place and I would much rather visit Japan than Europe any day, mostly because their subcultures seem wild or more libertarian and I dig that because I'm anything but 'normal'.. If I went I would check out the Punk clubs, dance clubs, those anime parties and such... It seems more fun than going to England and checking out Big Ben and sitting in a pub listening to how terrible Americans are or going to France just to say I went to France lol. I suppose Amsterdam would be fun, perhaps Germany (well not now I suppose with all these migrants coming over)...

    Yea, I think one of these day's I'll just say F-it and just go.
     
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    Your right about the Japanese have phallic sculptures and statues EVERYWHERE and I find it funny in the extreme that in a nation that has on average the smallest penis size of all men worldwide that they should SO OVERCOMPENSATE by having so many dick sculptures around!! LOL!!

    What I think even funnier is the fact that as the Japanese are so xenophobic and the fact they live in an island nation not being able to introduce more DNA into the gene pool means they are CURSED WITH TINY DICKS FOREVER!! LOL!!!

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    I would bet that is the case, I suppose Japan isn't as isolated as it once was but like you said they're biased so without question there has to be some kind of inbreeding going on - well lets just say it's a lot less than 6 degrees of separation in Japan, perhaps more like 3 or 4 degrees and generally in cultures like that the people tend to be generally short. It's been observed in numerous cultures that have been segregated or at least stuck to themselves for generations.

    A good example of this are uncontacted tribes in South America, and of course there are the these people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese_people they have been on that Island for 60,000 years inbreeding and they're only 4 feet tall.
     
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    Yep!!

    Thus they stay small and in any breeding population that is confined and limited to breeding partners whatever the genetic traits are now for people will remain basically the same.

    And that is why the U.S. which has the most diversified population on the planet is ranked #2 of the dick chart behind Congo!! LOL!!

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    This might sound bad...but many Japanese men aren't exactly masculine to begin with...so its not that big of a stretch. lol
     
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    I still do not understand why it should bother anyone if a young person dresses in a way that is "Androgynous" so as not to reveal whether they are Male or Female, unless the objector feels a need to cubby hole people in a niche as it were, I need to know what you, are so I can feel better about myself type of mindset, perhaps a trait akin to OCD.....
     
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    Probably because it gives the impression of subterfuge.

    Again you people act like zealots in demonising the world for having a simple human reaction to a tiny percentage of people who behave in unusual ways. Who needs religion!
     
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    East Asian men in general are not masculine. They're small, hairless, and a little too meek and 'indoorsish'. I suspect Japanese men are the exception to that. I don't have personal experience, but friends with Japanese partners tell me they're far from meek :D
     

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