Can people really be non-binary?

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Can people really be non-binary?

  1. no

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  2. yes

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Not necessarily. Evolution and natural selection are not a logical process they are simply a process.
    Not everything nature does has to have a meaning or be deliberate just as what it is
     
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    my first thought to this is that's exactly opposite of what I've observed. Women seem to be very closed off to dating a bisexual man and Men seem to be perfectly fine dating a bisexual woman but I understand you were talking about themselves being open to bisexuality.

    I can get some important to State this because it comes up later in the post.
    I think men are just as capable of seeing the beauty of another man but it doesn't necessarily make them gay or bisexual it's just that there's people that don't believe there's a such thing as a bisexual man. They're just gay which isn't the case I'm gay the way people used to say it is I'm a number six on the Kenzie scale.

    A guy that has sex with women and men it's not like me.

    I think this is why men aren't as open to it because they are thought of differently.

    I remember a friend of mine was all set to marry this woman loved each other or so it seemed and they were dating for a good year and a half and this friend was heterosexual but he did fool around with another boy when he was in high school and he confessed this to the woman he was planning on marrying he wasn't cheating on her he wasn't interested in chasing after men at all just that that happened it was enough for her to call off the wedding she couldn't look at him the same way that's what she said that's why men are less open to it they are forced to be if they want to have a chance with women.

    I remember when I was identifying as bisexual I was in the process of coming out I tried getting women because someone told me I should do that and I would tell them I was bisexual three or four of them that I dated that was it there was no more interaction there was only one and she wanted to do threesomes.

    Nobody knows that better than a bisexual guy I feel for them cuz they get that from gay guys too.

    yeah it carries less stigma in fact it's a benefit there's so many guys out there that think it's hot. Very very few women think of bisexual guy is hot very few gay men think a bisexual guy is hot.
    I think it all really boils down to dominance and submissiveness. We see penetrating that's dominant and being penetrated as submissive. It makes me wonder if there would be a difference in women regarding bisexual men if they were strictly tops. Every single bisexual man I've ever met is a bottom. I'm not saying there's no such thing as a bisexual top it's just I'm not sure if that's that common
     
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    In my experience men are more open about sexual exploration. I've met a few guys that absolutely will not do one thing or the other what the variety of things they would be willing to do seems to be greater.

    So I think guys kind of hold that sort of thing close because they're afraid of being judged. Not necessarily by a partner but by anybody.

    I remember a friend of mine was into leather. And he and his wife did their leather is saying all the time and that was great but he did not want anyone else finding out about it because he didn't want to be judged.

    There are people that are just judgy about that **** I don't know why. The first time I performed a sex act with another guy I lost all pretenses of that nonsense. If people are going to judge me then they're just going to judge me but not everybody gets to have that revelation. When I finally felt that right about myself I ran out of ****s to give. My doubts disappeared. There's people that live there whole life never experiencing that.

    And such people do not like that others have experienced that and on that comfortable with themselves. It suggests that this uptightness and resistance is not of any use.

    The existence of someone that has taken off the bridle and their life hasn't fallen to pieces shows that people living a bridled life are wasting their life. So it creates a lot of insecurity and therefore such a thing as kink shaming happens. You are not to be happy with yourself at least you're not the show others that you are sad really.
     
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    Thank you for further supporting my position that the only two options for sex chromosomes are X and Y, ergo a BINARY system.

    As a forum friend of mine says, "don't be afraid to come at me with the hard stuff"...
     
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    My argument still stands on its own, as repeated below.

    There is no such thing as "non-binary" or "genderqueer". You cannot define it. You cannot provide me with any letters used in sex chromosomes other than X or Y.
     
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    non·bi·na·ry | \ ˌnän-ˈbī-nə-rē , -ˌner-ē, -ˌne-rē \
    Definition of nonbinary


    : not binary: such as
    a: not restricted to two things or partsnonbinary voting
    b: of, relating to, or being a system of numbers that does not use 2 as its basenonbinary math
    c: relating to or being a person who identifies with or expresses a gender identity that is neither entirely male nor entirely female
    Nonbinary Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
     
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    In un-healthy dreams :)
     
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    That is a correct statement.
    The idea of being "non-binary" exists only in the brains of over-pampered snowflakes who seek attention at all costs.
     
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    Those snow-flaky persons may "identify" as long as they like - but there are no human beings who really are "non-binary".
    That's just a stupid fashion of the more stupid sort.
     
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    None, except for those who are.
     
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    :blushes: ~ There is now ... Men can get pregnant too ! Our government says so ... :aww: :b0x0rz:
     
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    I don't care about what one "identifies as"... I care about what one IS. Additionally, there is no such thing as a 'gender identity' or a 'partial male/female', therefore that definition is complete gibberbabble. --- Try again.

    What specific sex is there that exists besides male or female??
    What specific sex chromosome is there that exists besides X or Y??

    Here's your big chance!!
     
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    What specific sex is there that exists besides male or female? Both and/or neither.
     
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    I am still waiting for you to tell this forum, with regard to humans:

    What specific sex exists besides male or female?
    What specific sex chromosome exists besides X or Y?

    Here is your big chance to prove me wrong. Have at it!!
     
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    "Both" necessarily implies the existence of a BINARY SYSTEM (male and female) (X and Y). Thank you for supporting my position.

    If it is "neither", then you would be able to identify for me precisely what it is (other than male or female). You have yet to do this.
     
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    I don't accept either of those answers. Firstly, evolution is logical. It is survival of the fittest. It is driven by anything that maximizes reproduction. It is statistics.

    Meaning is for philosophers. Everything answers to math. Traits that increase reproduction persists. Traits that don't have biological value do not persist. That is a waste of energy. Wasted energy results in lower rates of reproduction.
     
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    No evolution isn't logical it doesn't possess the ability to be.
    Then why are their still gay people, still people that carry the genes that result in downs syndrome, cickle cell anemia and so forth.

    What is the logic there?
    Explain the existence of the things I listed that persist.
     
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    It is driven by statistics which is extremely logical. Homosexuality may simply play an important role in the success of a species that we don't understand.

    There is no great mystery. But there are unanswered questions. And as mentioned, it could be a matter of the brain and random events that lead to sexual preferences.
     
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    non-binary in what respect? as regards sex and aside from the occasional aberration, the answer is no. as regards gender roles (what we are really talking about when we say "gender"), there never was a true binary relationship. there have been the traditional/stereotypical male and female archetypes, but few people ever fit into them. it has always been a sliding scale and we've always been just fine with it. it was only when people felt it necessary to define themselves in these term and codify the rest of the population's response to our demands that we started getting into trouble. from the effeminate male and tomboys to full blown homosexuality on either side of the aisle, there are few folks out there who really give a damn.

    then we have the trans-sexuals. face it folks - if you can't come to terms with the sex you were born to, then you have far more pressing problems than which bathroom you should use. if you insist on using modern surgical techniques to disfigure the body you were born to, then you are among the emotionally stunted and intellectually challenged and should seek psychiatric help before you do yourself irreparable damage.

    the rest of this entire conversation is more about one-upmanship than any meaningful discussion.
     
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    if you don't understand it how do you know it's logical?
    So you can't point out any logic?
     
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    Just like there's no human beings who really are homosexual.
     
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    I don't care what your opinion is and neither do transgenders. They know what they are.

    Transgenders are biologically one sex, while their brain functions as the opposite sex.

    ...
    Male, female and transgender brains
    “The male and female brain have structural differences,” he says. Men and women tend to have different volumes in certain areas of the brain.

    “When we look at the transgender brain, we see that the brain resembles the gender that the person identifies as,” Dr. Altinay says. For example, a person who is born with a penis but ends up identifying as a female often actually has some of the structural characteristics of a “female” brain.

    And the brain similarities aren’t only structural.
    https://health.clevelandclinic.org/research-on-the-transgender-brain-what-you-should-know/
     
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    I didn't share any opinion of mine. Human anatomy is not "my opinion".

    They have mental illness that deludes them into believing they are something that they are not, otherwise they wouldn't be transgender to begin with.

    No... They are biologically one sex but their mental illness deludes them into thinking that they are the other sex. They need mental health treatment, not people condoning their delusions, pretending that they are reality.
     

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