Catholic Bishop Had 'No Duty' To Report Child Abuse - Even If He Knew About It

Oh god I wish I was as optimistic as you.

Little sheeple will continue to baptise and confirm their 2.9 kids, send them to catholic schools, because there is no alternative and get married in church because registry offices are for gays and divorcees.

I honestly don't see it changing. I am becoming more and more convinced that Irish long term emigration is as much about expelling liberals from our land of saints and scholars as it is about economics.

 

True. But walk into any church in Ireland on a Sunday and it is half empty. And the Irish government majorly upset the Vatican. Never would have happened in 'old' Ireland.

 

You're probably referring to the Protestant Irish, they allied with the occupying English both the English and Protestant Irish have a history of being anti Catholic and they will do anything and everything to malign and destroy the Catholic church.

The rest of the world have been very thankful and are starting to realise the many lies and attacks brought against the Catholic church since the 1st century, the church has survive and will continue to survive until the final day and in that day only a few will surely be with Jesus Christ in His Kingdom of Heaven.

Communism, was brought down not by force of arms but by Catholic faith.

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The modern Irish are liberal and are turning their backs on your archaic religion.

 

Not the modern Irish, modern Protestant Irish have been very more aggressive and they are exploiting the liberalization of the Catholic church and society.

Anti Catholics have been very aggressive in attacking the Catholic church and the Catholic church have not responded the same way because of Catholic dogma and tradition of none violence the same tradition that saw the fall of Christian Middle East in the 7th century to Islam it will take about 400 years before Catholics will start fighting back, and it is happening again this time all the anti Catholics have join forces to attack the Catholic by all and every means it will be just a matter of time before the Catholic church start fighting back again and reveal the many sex scandal, abuses and crimes of those individuals and organization their crimes that are much worse than what they have been accusing the Catholic church of.

John 8:7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

 

I won't hold my breath.

 

You don't have to, keep breathing normally, because the Catholic church will be here till the end of the world.

Ironic, that the crime of individual priest are being redirected to the entire Catholic church. It is like the crime of one US Marine is the crime of the entire US Marine Cor or is it?

Originally Posted by WanRen
Anti Catholics have been very aggressive in attacking the Catholic church and the Catholic church have not responded the same way because of Catholic dogma and tradition of none violence the same tradition that saw the fall of Christian Middle East in the 7th century to Islam it will take about 400 years before Catholics will start fighting back, and it is happening again this time all the anti Catholics have join forces to attack the Catholic by all and every means it will be just a matter of time before the Catholic church start fighting back again and reveal the many sex scandal, abuses and crimes of those individuals and organization their crimes that are much worse than what they have been accusing the Catholic church of.

John 8:7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

 

Do not live in a wrong hope. We will lose everything - maybe also Ireland. But this is not a reason - for nothing. We are losing since 2000 years. Try to ask yourselve something else if you are sure god loves you:

Would you go through Birma and would you be satisfied if the buddhist temples there are empty? People with a broken culture - a broken tradition - a broken religion - would wake in me normally a feeling of fear and death - a feeling as if I would become myselve a member of a gigantic concentation camp, where even the birds stopped to sing and no one is able to enjoy any longer the beauty of all creation - for example the beauty of yet unborn children living in the most save situation - in the middle of the own mother.

What is really going on in this world? Why are so many people destroying the living conditions of the future generations of human beings and feel the same time as if they would be highly intelligent - while they are on the other side without any possibillity to communicate about their own - very strong, strange and destructive - belief systems?

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For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written: 'I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.' Where are the wise? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling-block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, so that no-one may boast before him. It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. Therefore, as it is written: 'Let those who boast boast in the Lord.'

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http://youtu.be/_H4TlDxXxVk

 

The bishop knew about the abuse. I don't give a flying rats arse whether the priest was meant to report it. If you know about a child being abused, you (*)(*)(*)(*) well report it to the police instead of sitting around waiting for someone else to do it!!!!

 

Do you report all internet abuse of children you see? Why are you waiting for someone else to do it?

 

Road or path to Heaven is not easy, road or path to hell is easier, that is why there are very few saints.

 

I never said they were elected. But they are still politicians.

 

The message is easy - and wherever your way is and whatever will happen with us all: we are in his hands. We have all chances - and to fight for a better world is always worth the fight.

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I will not report internet child abuse because I don't go around looking for child porn. If I came across someone, or was informed by someone that they were molesting a child, I would notify authorities immediately.

 

Did the Bishop find out about the crime during religious counseling? That's the key question. If not, I don't see ho he can be protected by the priest/penitent privilege.

 

I'm just gonna leave this here...

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That video is a clear representation that the Catholic church is open to discussion and debate at the same time the anti Catholics tend to double talk they'll say they have nothing against the many pious and good Catholics that have done many good things at same time attacking the Catholic church which these good Catholics are a member of???

The Catholic church no doubt is a force of good, Jesus Christ have prove that to be and the thousands of Catholics that died by sacrificing themselves so that others may live.

The anti Catholics as usual concentrate on the crusades and evangelization of natives and child abuse as cause for the Catholic to be not for good ignoring the fact that without the crusades the world that the anti Catholics are living now would be none existence and there won't be such freedom of discussion and debate under an Islamic nation, the crusade that was the last resort to stop the seemingly unstoppable Muslim insatiable appetite for world conquest. The evangelization of natives, they ignore that the arrival and intervention of Catholics stop the practice of human sacrifice and countless tribal wars that have prove to be more brutal and savage than in the West.

I wonder, what would these anti Catholics would have done differently at that time in the 11th century to stop the conquest of Muslim army in their territories? They are very much against the crusade so what would they have done obviously the only thing that the Muslim army wanted was conversion, so would they just surrender their freedom and convert to Islam? So if they (forefathers) converted to Islam then this would mean there would be no atheist today?

Anti semitism, when countless Catholics died during WWII saving Jews, Catholics were instrumental in bringing down the WARSAW Pact nation not the USA.

 

Yes. Anne Widdecombe made a similar point. I loved Stephen Fry's response about how it's a bit like a criminal saying "well you would bring up that burglary and that man-slaughter... you never mention the fact that I give my father Birthday presents"... as if the bad stuff isn't worth mentioning...

 

Uh....hello? Everyone in the catholic church would solve the problem if they notice a child molestor? Are you kidding me? Everyone but the priests you mean.

 

Several priest have already been discipline for offences that include sexual in nature only a few high profile cases have been picked up by anti Catholics not because they are concern about the welfare of the children but it is more about destroying the Catholic church forgetting that the offence of priest are not offence of the Catholic church just like offences committed by American citizens does not = to offence of the United State of America.

 

It is okay to talk about the bad stuff that is why the Catholic church has no problem with those kind of discussion that is why the Catholic church has kept good records of all historical events those bad stuff has it'e equivalent of good stuff that anti Catholic refuse to recognize; example: the Crusades, they refuse to recognize the fact that the Crusade was the only answer to Muslim aggression. The Inquisition, the Inquisition was the only answer to the untamed secular world at that time that has a justice system base on mob rule, and personal vengeances. The Catholic church have step forward to admit wrongs and mistakes and have made both spiritual and material compensation to that effect unlike other religious sects such as Islam, Judaism or Protestanism that have continue to refuse to take responsibilities for their crimes committed in the name of religion.

 

How many Catholics met you in your life?

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A new survey in Ireland has shown modern Catholics disagree with the teachings of the Catholic church. It's time the old dinosaurs got with the times.

 

I guess this means you too never met a Catholic in your life. So what's the concrete reason for your hate against Catholics?

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Although i am an Atheist now, i was raised a Catholic. I don't hate Catholics themselves, that would be silly. I just hate some of the teachings of the church and the evil way in which child sex abuse was covered up by the Vatican.