CDC admits to vast over count of deaths

Just FYI, I've talked to anthropologists about this, as well as run-of-the-mill survivalists. Gathering plants and trapping small game is better for survival. Hunting large animals is not actually that good of a survival strategy.

 

Can you explain the calculated risk behind not wearing a mask?

The maximum risk of wearing a mask is temporary discomfort
The maximum risk of not wearing a mask is exposure, leading to illness, leading to death

 

21,000,000 is the number of hits for this Google search: "Covid-19 deaths".
Not "positive tests".
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Yep, I've known of several people who have died from starvation due to Alzheimer's . . . doesn't mean we should remove Alzheimer's from the death certificate and just count the cause of death as starvation.

 

The number of Google hits is completely meaningless.

 

There is a difference between loan survivalists and clan survival. African pygmies hunted elephant. Why one beast is food for an entire clan for a month. You've got to catch a hell of a lot of rabbits to get the same bang for the buck.

 

What? What does the number of search results on google have to do with anything.
Google ‘cucumber’ and see how many there are (180 million)

 

Wrong what if covid by itself wouldn't have killed them at all?

 

You've known several people that died of starvation, why the heck didn't you help them would be my question.

 

Most of the survivalists I know are not lone survivalists, and none of the anthropologists I've talked to were talking about lone actors. Large game is not nearly as efficient, even for "clan survival." It is much easier, safer, more efficient, and more sustainable to capture rabbits to feed the same number of people. Large game hunting wasn't very efficient, even for large numbers of people. They often ended up with more meat than they could actually consume before it spoiled, and they took bigger risk and expended a lot needless energy to do so. Small game and gathering was more efficient, safer, more sustainable, etc.

 

I said known OF, as in after the fact. I spend no small amount of time and effort helping others.

 

It is called a comorbidity.
There is a difference between ‘cause of death’ and ‘mechanism of death’.
This is already tracked

 

What if they wouldn't have died if not for COVID, regardless of their pre-existing conditions? This is why we do excess death studies.

 

Ok I was about to say what an odd dang post when trying to make a point about Covid.

 

No, that's a good question.

 

I stopped at you assumed...

 

Except the mask at best keeps you From spreading it if you already have it. If you do not have it it blocks ( possibly) one potential vector by which the germ might enter your body.

 

Which is why, if both parties are wearing a mask, it is pretty effective at slowing the spread of the disease. This is why health professionals have been promoting mask wearing.

 

I'm a Registered Behavior Tech i collect data for a living ( just part of what i do)
So the others poster assumption that i gave a **** what a website said about the data is false.
Interesting faulty logic but you run with that it does not change the CDC's data.

90+ % of the cases of deaths had an average of 2.6 underlying conditions which can be quite a few things some minor some terminal conditions. You all want to see a personal with stage 4 cancer and say Covid killed them that is on you.

 

If you had looked at the table and read what the people who produced said table had to say about the data, you would know this is a false appraisal. You want to see a person who died from respiratory distress caused by covid and claim that covid wasn't the underlying cause.

 

That's like saying it wasn't the bullet that killed the shooting victim, it was the loss of blood, and he wouldn't have died if he had perfect kidneys.

 

Funny thing about underlying conditions... In your scenario the patient would have been bleeding out before he was shot.

 

The CDC isn't classifying COVID deaths in the way you describe.

Straight from the CDC website

"COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death"

All this conjecture about including people who were on death's door step being included in the death count simply because they had COVID is false.

 

Also untrue. A more truthful comparison would be to say that someone who is anemic gets shot and then bleeds out. The gunshot is still the underlying cause of death, despite the anemia complications.

 

And I thought it was the fact that they caught a lot of heat for not recommending back in early March.