Chaos in Paris

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You post fascist drivel and you think you have something to say about constructiveness? Golly gosh!
     
  2. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I argumented. You don't. And explain me how what I claim it's fascist ? I'm clearly xenophobic, but xenophobia and fascism are two different ideologies, I don't support any kind of totalitarism, I'm more royalist by heart, partisan of democracy by resignation.
    So if you have only insults, you would better leave.
     
  3. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    There's no argument against fascism. There is only the fist of rationality.

    Loved this. Its 'I'd admit I'm a fascist, but I have inane romanticism to work out first'.

    Its weird how few fascists admit their nature.
     
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    That's the longest wording of "we're conquered, just accept it" I've ever seen. Pathetic.
     
  5. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Simply because I'm not for a dictatorial regime. It's weird how people like you tend to call everybody fascist. "Fascist, fascist, fascist", you sounds up like a broken disc.

    One definition of fascism :
    One common definition of the term focuses on three concepts: the fascist negations (anti-liberalism, anti-communism and anti-conservatism); nationalist authoritarian goals of creating a regulated economic structure to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture; and a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization, a positive view of violence and promotion of masculinity, youth and charismatic leadership.[31][32][33] According to many scholars, fascism—especially once in power—has historically attacked communism, conservatism and parliamentary liberalism, attracting support primarily from the far-right.[34]

    And I don't fit in.
     
  6. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Your end goal is the same.

    The theory of the elites is a key component. You fit that very well.

    I still love your defence. 'I'm not a fascist, I just hate foreigners'
     
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  7. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My end goal is to preserve my culture. Are native american fascist for wanting to preserve their culture ?

    I don't like elites, but I don't hope any positive change from a magical dictator who would solve everything.

    I don't hate them. I don't have problem with people visiting my country, as long they stay correct, but I don't think that the nationality of my country should be given in an easy war. You're french if you have french ancestors or if you love the country. I hate the one who "import" them.
     
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    What culture is that? I hope you've paid for a DNA test.
     
  9. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    French culture. I know that I have celtics, vikings, latin and even arabic ancestors, and physically, I looks like some arabic people, especially Iran, slighty paler however, doesn't change my point. I would notice that if I have those genetic influences but the first, it's because of violent invasions.
     
  10. Reiver

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    There is no French culture. There are many cultures that are included in France. You had to admit that, in a snivelly way mind you
     
  11. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're Emmanuel Macron ? There is no french culture maybe today, but there was one. Monet, Manet, Pissaro, Couperin, Delibès, Gauguin, Saint-Saens, Charpentier, Buffardin, David, Poussin, Le Nain brother, Quentin De la tour, Georges de la Tour, Emmanuel Comte, Joseph Chevalier de Saint Georges, Jacquet de la Guerre, and so on. French culture exist, or at least existed.
     
  12. Reiver

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    There was never one culture. Your fascist effort to suggest otherwise won't wash. There has always been diversity, making a mockery of your hate.
     
  13. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    double
     
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  14. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not hate, it's love of my own culture. There is diversity inside a culture, and no culture is monolithic for sure, chinese or indian culture are quite diverse, does it mean that there is no chinese or indian culture. By the way, it's not the case.
    The fact there is a diversity of dogs doesn't mean that dogs doesn't exist.

    What your doing is an ethnocide by words, denying even that my culture existed.
     
  15. Reiver

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    Given your culture is alien to others, it is hate. There is no one culture. You use it to push your agenda and to hate others.

    We talk about diversity and you refer to dogs. Standard fascism!

    Your culture exists. Its one of thousands. However, you use it to condemn others and to spread hate. Standard fascism!
     
  16. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People tend to hate

    That's called a confirmation bias, you see what you want to see. Considering that you seems delusionnal, I should have used flowers. There is roses, orchids, hyacinth, poppy flowers, daisies, does it make the reality of flower, less concrete ?

    Where do I condemn other cultures ? And about feelings, you're probably an full angel full of love. Hatred is a feeling, it's not positive or negative itself, nothing more, like love, and that's good to hate somethings, like for instance rapists or murderers. But I don't hate other cultures, I appreciate some foreign cultures, but I want mine preserved, and I totally understand than some other want their culture preserved. By the way, you says that because France is a country with a white majority, you wouldn't have called a fascist a indian who want his culture preserved, or someone from a native american, or a morrocan, or a chinese. It's only true for the culture of white people that wanting to get your culture preserved is "hatred".
     
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    I don't. Despite your fascism, I still find amusement in your comments. I won't, however, tolerate you spreading your hatred. You can pretend as much as you want, but your card is marked and it is common decency to fight your fascist values.

    The response is easy. Stop pretending there is a single culture. Stop using that to hate. Stop your fascism. Europe has endured too much of your insipid attitudes already.
     
  18. VotreAltesse

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    Watch out. Superman of love is there to defeat the mean negative feelings.

    But sorry, it was just beginning of my sentence. People tend to hate when what they love is threatened.

    Like I care of your opinions. And no, it's not fascism.

    I never pretended there is a single culture in this world. I want my culture preserved.

    I won't stop to hate, because I love a lot of things, and I can't help to hate what threaten to love, I hate people who threaten my friends, my family and my culture. I won't stop to hate because it would mean I would have stoped to love.

    Europe has endured a lot because of communism too, and a lot of other ideologies. Europe as endured too much because of this pro mass migration ideology who caused us terrorist attacks and cases like Telford and Rotherham cases. The most peacefull countries to live in are the european countries who refused those ideologies. It didn't killed as much people than WW1, for now.
    I don't want my country to become another Yugoslavia or Lebanon.
     
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    Given there isn't one culture in your country, should you perhaps try and stop whining?
     
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    There is still a coherency, when the country is united. It's by the way not true for divided country, but the fact that different styles coexist in a country doesn't mean that's different cultures.
     
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    What coherency? Prove to us there is one culture and that your understanding of it is important.

    You won't.
     
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    Prove me that french culture doesn't exist. So now, we have two things that we can't prove.

    Furthermore, I never pretended that there is "one" culture, I pretended that there is a french culture, and I want it preserved.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    France is, and has always been, diverse. You want me to prove your fascism is nonsense. I have no need for that. You base your argument on idiotic hate.
     
  24. VotreAltesse

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    Oh, and where I pretended the opposite ?
     
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    Bollocks!

    Europe is fine enough, given that it takes time to exit the Great Recession gifted by Uncle Sam to the world.

    Unemployment is still far too high, but nobody is dying from the disease - in fact, Europe's obesity is increasing:
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    Some call that the consequence of "the good life". But it is nothing compared to what is happening stateside, where obesity has become an epidemic.

    Make love, not fat ...
     
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