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Childhood’s Greatest Danger: The Data on Kids and Gun Violence

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Galileo, Dec 21, 2022.

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Point is, some supporting the 2A, will not. Once the money stops flowing, they get new ideologies to protect. They follow the money.
     
    dairyair, Dec 29, 2022
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that's complete bullshit. again your specious argument is akin to someone who wants to ban all political speech saying he is no different than someone who wants to criminalize the creation of kiddie porn. NO one is buying your claim that your anti gun position is no more anti rights than mine. BTW what sort of infringements have I supported?
     
    Turtledude, Dec 29, 2022
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  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Wow, your argument is so sad, now you have to resort to some conspiracy theory about kiddie porn. That is a horrible deflection.
     
    dairyair, Dec 29, 2022
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  4. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your argument is worthless and that you cannot understand the analogy pretty much shows you have hit rock bottom and now you look for steam shovel. I don't see anyone supporting your claim that your anti gun sentiments are no different than my view that a state has the proper power banning the private use of weaponized anthrax
     
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    Turtledude, Dec 29, 2022
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  5. dairyair

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    What, not another deflection to kiddie porn?
    And you didn't deflect to another sill deflection?

    Run out of deflections?

    You admitting to infringements is what you're calling my worthless argument? LOL, it's your position.
     
    dairyair, Dec 30, 2022
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  6. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you saying that the NRA “supports” politicians by giving them money? Aren’t they already receiving a salary from the government? Any extra money they receive must be bribes mustn’t they?
     
    Sallyally, Dec 30, 2022
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, wasn’t allowed to.
     
    Sallyally, Dec 30, 2022
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  8. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    The data show that, in general, a NRA endorsement can raise a candidate’s share of the vote by approximately 3% per 10,000 NRA members in the district. Thus, in a district with 20,000 NRA members, the NRA endorsement might add 6% to a candidate’s share of the vote.
    https://davekopel.org/2A/OthWr/Does-the-NRA-Influence-Federal-Elections.pdf
    A majority of gun owners (61%) are Republicans or lean to the Republican Party, but NRA members skew even more heavily to the political right than other gun owners.
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...s-have-a-unique-set-of-views-and-experiences/
     
    Sallyally, Dec 30, 2022
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    do you have any clue how expensive campaigns are? Your definition of bribes is foreign to anyone who actually understands election law
     
    Turtledude, Dec 30, 2022
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  10. Polydectes

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    So he didn't use it to improve his farm?
     
    Polydectes, Dec 30, 2022
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  11. Sallyally

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    No, we have very nosy media who would have watched him like a hawk.
    He has a suss sort of history and the farmers who voted for him would be very disappointed that he could stoop to taking money from Ms Hancock.
     
    Sallyally, Dec 30, 2022
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  12. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Our donations go to the political party, not to individual politicians.
     
    Sallyally, Dec 30, 2022
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    what country are you talking about
     
    Turtledude, Dec 30, 2022
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    If you don't mind me asking what country are you in or what country are you speaking about?
     
    Polydectes, Dec 30, 2022
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Donations and electoral expenditure
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    The disclosure threshold, the amount over which donations must be disclosed, under the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 is Consumer Price Index (CPI)-indexed and from 1 July 2021 to 30 June 2022 is $14,500. As of 1 December 2020, donations must be deposited into a federal campaign account to be covered under the political finance laws (which are generally less prescriptive than state or territory laws).

    https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia.../rp/rp2122/Quick_Guides/ElectionFundingStates
     
    Sallyally, Dec 30, 2022
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    And then red states will elect someone else. If it was about money they'd already be taking money from Bloomberg (#1) and Soros (#6). Neither the NRA or the NSSF make the top 100.
     
    Rucker61, Dec 30, 2022
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    Oh-irrelevant for a discussion about US politics. thanks
     
    Turtledude, Dec 30, 2022
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    How has the NRA become so powerful that it consistently thwarts gun legislation that is supported by a majority of Americans? The Founding Fathers were wary of such special interest groups:

    "By a faction, I understand a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adversed to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community."
    -James Madison
     
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    Galileo, Jan 1, 2023
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    The NRA doesn't cast a single vote in Congress. They give politicians significantly less money the candidates than either Bloomberg or Soros.
     
    Rucker61, Jan 1, 2023
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    1) pro gun voters, most of whom are not NRA members, tend to be better educated, and more motivated than the soccer moms, and other low information voters who actually believe gun control is crime control

    2) the constitution, when interpreted properly, thwarts most of the nonsense the democrats and the victim disarmament lobby wants to push,

    3) gun banners are a particularly dishonest and pernicious form of a faction since their arguments are based on falsehoods and their real agenda is destructive to our rights and safety
     
    Turtledude, Jan 1, 2023
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    I am definitely a pro gun voter. And definitely not an NRA member.
     
    SiNNiK, Jan 1, 2023
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    Thug life.
     
    SiNNiK, Jan 2, 2023
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    Kode, Jan 7, 2023
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    That's why their category of "children" goes up to 19.
     
    vman12, Jan 7, 2023
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