Christian Mingle Ordered To Accept Gay Singles .....

Except of course that it is still an offence to discriminate due to orientation .. so sad that you want to live in the past.

 

'by' comes from the Old English be- (unstressed) or bi (stressed) "near, in, by, during, about,"

Thou shalt not be meddled, [(or) mingled,] with a man, [near, in, by, during, about] [excessive or offensive sexual desire; lustfulness] of a woman, for it is abomination.

yet again, nothing even close to the modern version found in most bibles today, just to add the inclusion of by (or bi) in the Tyndale bible is interesting as the Hebrew of by doesn't even appear in Lev 18:22

וְאֶת-זָכָר--לֹא תִשְׁכַּב, מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה: תּוֹעֵבָה, הִוא.

עַל יְדֵי
מֵאֵת
בְּאֶמצָעוּת
עַל
בְּ-
אֵצֶל
דֶרֶך
לְיַד
עַל יָד
אֶל
גַב
מַטָרָה


All of the above are the various Hebrew words for by or bi, none appear in the Hebrew of Lev 18:22.

 

Nope. That's in reference to EMPLOYMENT discrimination. WE were talking about public accommodation discrimination.

 

Where, as already stated it is also an offence to discriminate based on orientation and/or identity.

In fact over 53% of Floridians live in a place that protects them from discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity, including the following -

Alachua County (SO/GIE)
City of Atlantic Beach (SO/GIE)
Broward County (SO/GIE)
City of Dunedin (SO/GIE)
City of Gulfport (SO/GIE)
City of Gainesville (SO/GIE)
Hillsborough County (SO/GIE)
City of Juno Beach (SO/Gender)
City of Key West (SO/GIE)
City Of Lake Worth (SO/GIE)
City of Largo (SO/GIE)
Leon County (SO/GIE)
City of Miami (SO/GIE)
City of Miami Beach (SO/GIE)
Miami Dade County (SO/GIE)
Monroe County (SO/GIE)
Orange County (SO, GIE inclusive definition)
City of Orlando (SO/GIE)
City of Oakland Park (SO/GIE)
Palm Beach County (SO/GIE)
Pinellas County (SO/GIE)
City of Sarasota (SO/GIE)
City of St. Augustine (SO/GIE)
City of St. Petersburg (SO)
City of Tampa (SO/GIE)
Village of Tequesta (SO/GIE)
Volusia County (SO/GIE)
City of Venice (SO/GIE)
City of West Palm Beach (SO/GIE)
City of Wilton Manors (SO/GIE)

 

Also an offense to discriminate based upon orientation IN EMPLOYMENT decisions. NOT public accommodation. The topic of our discussion. AND the one commission finding that it is against the law to discriminate on the basis of orientation in Employment, is contrary to every other decision that proceeded it addressing the topic.

The 64 act that YOU claim prohibits discrimination based upon orientation, applies to all of the US.

 

That's true only if the book is corrupt and unrighteous

The fact of the matter is by them being part demon they were absolutely evil.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Said the pot.

Neither am I. Because the Bible wasn't written by cavemen and it wasn't scribble either.

Ah so you made a claim without evidence. Nice.

You have 13 verses saying that genocide is better than banishment? I'd like to see them.

Both angels and demons are SUPERnatural not UNnatural. They can interact with other dimensions like the one we live in.

Really? Where?

 

I thought you were asking for evidence of a creator. Evidence for the accuracy of the Bible is cities and groups found by archeologists. Scientific claims made well before the modern discover of them. For example scientists have found out that sound can produce light and every atom started out as light. "And God said, let there be light". Another is the mention of atoms in Hebrews 11:3, electricity can be used to send messages in Job 38:35, springs of the sea in Job 38:16, the fact that light travels in Job 38:19. The dietary and sanitary laws of Leviticus. Just to name a few.

Still, would you advocate the outlawing or allowing of bestiality?

 

Actually in context the word "by" would mean "like".

 

I do not doubt the existence of a higher power.

That does not explicitly prove that the bible is 100% correct or the word of the creator. If you want to execute people because of the printed word of God then it is owed to the individuals you believe have sacrificed their life to be unequivocally true.

I believe it should be completely criminalized, along with animal abuse and neglect.

 

Ok then.

If I were to prove every single claim of the Bible I would be here for a long time. I gave you a sample of the Bible's accuracy.

Playing the devils advocate but why? Animals can and have been known to initiate sexual contact. Animals have also been know to rape there own kind, they've also been known to have relations with species other than themselves and it was consentual. Are we only just animals ourselves? Why put a higher standard on us?

 

Well to isis their book isn't currpt and unrighteous. If you believe it is you are going to have to explain why objectively.

Demons are imaginary. Puerile can't be part demon any more than they can be part leprechaun.

What a lie. I never said anything was God's word. You did. You're the pot.

Parts of it were. The bible was never written it was compiled from all sorts of places.

No, I have evidence. The concept of homosexuality didn't exist until the 19th century. How could the authors know what was to come?

I have 13 verses saying the bible condones murder. Out of many. That isn't including the ones that cuisine wife beating, child molestation, slavery, rape, and polygamy.

Lol so are leprechauns. Prove super natural things exist.

Dimensions? Like length width and depth? I know time is considered a fourth dimension that is more about astrophysics. So what do you mean by other dimensions? You haven't even established that demons exist. You said they were supernatural. Supernatural things don't exist unless you can prove they do.

For example magical beings that can exist in one s dimension but not the other whatever that means. Interbreeding with leprechauns and hobgoblins and other magical fairies and spirits.

 

Proving the bible has basis in historical events and places along with scientific examples that could just exist in happenstance does not mean the book is the word of the creator.

• Animals are unable to consent
• Disease and bacterial vectors

If you cannot understand the difference between a consentual adult relationship and molesting an animal... Well... I guess the bible doesn't call animal rape an abomination or even a sin really - I guess you could pull the religious freedom card...

 

Gotta play one of these.

 

No it wouldn't - כמו - is 'like' in Hebrew, and again it does not appear anywhere in 18:22

וְאֶת-זָכָר--לֹא תִשְׁכַּב, מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה: תּוֹעֵבָה, הִוא

nor do any of it's variations.

כְּגוֹן - such as, like, as, for instance
כְּעֵיִן - like
מֵעֵין - kind of, like, sort of, as if, almost
כְּאִלוּ - as though, as if, like
בִּבְחִינַת - as, like

so again your interpretation that by/bi means like doesn't fit, not in the Hebrew or the English, in fact as already stated the Hebrew for by/bi or like do not appear anywhere in Lev 18:22, these are filler words added by the translators ergo it is their interpretation of what they believe SHOULD be there, based on the doctrine of the church at that time, and by adding these filler words they have changed the context and meaning of the verse.

William Tyndale on the other hand did not have the religious zealous of previous translators, he was an English scholar who became a leading figure in Protestant reform in the years leading up to his execution.

 

Are you asking for me to prove the Bible right or prove the Quran wrong? If its the former I did a sample with the other poster. If its the latter then for one their own book tells them if the Quran and the Bible contradict then the Bible overrides. For another it make claims to major miracles without evidence (splitting the moon in half for example). On the other hand there is evidence for the ten plagues, the Red Sea crossing, manna falling from the sky, Jesus' resurrection, etc.

Demons are no more imaginary than God.

You claim that whatever you think God's word is it doesn't condemn homosexuality.

Can you show me where?

The word didn't existed then but the concept certainly existed. Homosexuality entails having sex with someone of the same gender and that certainly existed long before the word existed. Before we called it PTSD we called it shell shocked. The symptoms and concept is still the same.

I read though and found none. Show me what you're talking about.

Where did it said that?

God is supernatural. And skipping the evidence of God for a second but if you believe in God then you also believe in the supernatural.

Scientists say there are more dominations than that. And like I said God is supernatural and you believe in him.

 

I can only prove that the historical and scientific claims the Bible makes are true. To me if a Book thousands of years old made said that you can use electricity to send messages then maybe its a book worth looking at.

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There are diseases more readily spread in the homosexual community.

Actually it says that should be put to death for it and I'm inclined to agree. I'm just playing the devil's advocate. But if I can't compare bestiality to homosexuality then what about consentual incest?

 

Something went wrong with the last post. Anyway my last point is that the Bible Calais for the death of someone who commits bestiality. And if I'm wrong about comparing homosexuality to bestiality then what about incest if both parties consent?

 

Yes the forum is behaving strangely...

As for incest, as long as there is no coercion I feel like two consenting adults should be free to do whatever they want, I'm not well versed in the medical complications of offspring should they occur so I'm sure there are medical reasons why this should be avoided. Incest is closer to homosexuality (and heterosexuality) than zoophilia.

Since you feel your religion should be the basis for law - an assumption so excuse me if I'm incorrect - should we follow the bible to the letter? Return of slavery? Women relinquishing their rights? What is to stop a radical version of your religion from taking hold and becoming the next Isis.

Why do you feel others should be held to the standards of your beliefs? How do you justify that?

 

I deleted all of your other bull(*)(*)(*)(*) because until you address this fallacy your are making communicating is impossible. And all you're doing is spouting rhetoric.

I'm not interested in talking to you if that's all you can do.

That isn't the context in which I'm using the word. Since the last time I tried to explain this to you you either feigned ignorance, or genuinely don't understand that words have several meanings.

The word "homosexuality" has two definitions. Meaning it can mean two different things in our language.


[hoh-muh-sek-shoo-al-i-tee]
noun
1.
sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex.

This is the definition I'm using. Not the one you wish to say is the only definition.

If you are too bigoted or ignorant to understand that. Communication has broke down and it's your fault.

I explained this before and you said I was being incoherent because you didn't like the definition that is common today. That is your arrogance and your failing. I just explained it very clearly.

 

Incest can and does result in genetic errors and diseases that are not replicated outside familial lines.
Sex with animals is incompatible and a crime in many places, it harms the animal often.


Why do you feel others should be held to the standards of your beliefs? How do you justify that?

Why waste so much time on it too ???

On the tombstone, it should say; he wasted 20 precious years of his life poking his snout into other people's affairs....

 

The reason slavery was allowed was because it was major part of that region's economics and because they were going to to do it anyway. God didn't want them to have a king yet provided guidelines because he knew they were going to do it anyway. He didn't want them to get divorces but he knew man's heart so he gave guidelines for that also. Since we got rid of slavery there's no need for the guidelines. And as for women's rights I like to see the verse that denies their rights.

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Then we are talking about the same thing when it comes to the definition of homosexuality.

 

So homosexuality isn't an act but the attraction to the same sex? So why did you say it was an act?