Coalition federal govt so far

Oh and gazza, I can call you gazza as we are old friends now can't I? I would stop rolling on the floor laughing, the men in white coats will come take you away.

 

Have we ever had a more clumsy PM and Foreign Minister?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...d-spying-claims/story-fn59nm2j-1226829887375#

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/16/us-indonesia-australia-ties-idUSBREA1F0VG20140216

We are on the fast track to become the laughing stock of our planet....

Diplomacy, can it be learned? Not when you are a dickhead and redneck'ish by character.

Regards

Sorry Garry, I know it will make you explode.....

 

Your evidence of "zero debt" is my link of attempts to borrow money as the end all??? Perhaps you should think real hard about that, it is NOT my claim of "zero debt" it is MY doubt of the truth of such claim that you are trying to refute. As I do not need evidence of such but have supplied evidence of the fact sources are fibbing is not in dispute is it??? No, I am in the enviable position I do not have to provide anything, YOU however, are in a position to provide evidence....

So, in your opinion the reasoning behind loans indicate that something else was not happening. For example, if say I am borrowing money to buy a car you suggest that I am not also borrowing to buy a house... And you say I look foolish...

 

I note you decided to pull out of your effort of seriously discussing the assets sales. So did you suddenely realise what you were complaining about was simple spite???

So on goes the problems of previous Greens/ALP alliances and you complain that Abbott is problem here... It is real funny when you try and complain about the Coalition for something YOUR group did. Oh are you really complaining that they can not keep it quiet to cover the arses of the Greens\ALP??? No, your problem is that this shows more to the fact the ALP\Greens allience were trying far harder to kiss the butts of the US rather than their pretence of standing alone... IT is a joke, especially when people think they are immune to such and try and shift blame from where it should lay...

Diplomacy, cannot be learned from people who don't understand what diplomacy is and what it takes...

 

Diplomacy, cannot be learned from people who don't understand what diplomacy is and what it takes... :roflol

I totally agree, and that is why Abbott's and Bishop should stand down....

 

Not look, are. All you are doing is digging a deeper hole Garry, making yourself look more and more foolish. I never said anything about zero debt. I never said it was true, nor did I say it was not true. You said it was a lie. and asked for evidence that it was true. I think, seeing you are the one who refuted TV and said it was a lie, the onus is on you to prove the lie. Your link however only made you look foolish, so as you posted the link, well what can I say.

I do not know whether it is true or not, and that is why I have not used words like FACT.

 

And put the people who created the problems you are complaining about back into the position...

Australia was already a joke and the fact that your want to put the people BACK into the position to carry on that joke just makes one laugh...

Again it just demonstrates that sour grapes attitude you have…

 

You mention sour grapes more than any one here.........interesting ... Garry ... I have news for you, you are not GOD, now don't get upset, none of us are. You are just a human (I think) like all of us, we think Abbott is a clown, you think the labor/greens are clowns. Good, we have that out of the road, no rebuttal needed. OK Let's start talking evidence, facts and leave the clowns to ride their bicycles at the circus. Thanks

 

The fact is you are trying to defend that very premise so if you are doing so, then you are making the same assertion. Now you want to play the person of intellectual supremacy in trying to demonstrate a belief is wrong through pedantic ways. Again, ONE SHOULD PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH...

Actually, I asked for evidence because I don't believe the claim. I never stated it to be a lie... THAT is your assumptions... talk about looking foolish.

Unfortunately for you, I never said it was a lie. I said I don't believe such and want evidence. The evidence supplied was a LIE. So far NOTHING has been provided to support the claim. So my belief that it is not true still remains. THE claim of truth does NOT. As the onus on the person to show claims with evidence, then the fact I disbelieve does not have to be supported. Also the fact of if I believe the person is wrong still remains. So far nothing has been provided except lies and innuendo some made by yourself.

The fact that you wish to move onus from the claim to the refute of such a claim shows more foolishness than you proclaim of others, AND you pretend to be highly educate.

So why are you defending such??? And YES I use the word FACT; not to the claim BUT to the person who made the claim pretending opinion and lies are considered FACT. I also use it to show that your assume much as when you say... "You said it was a lie" The fact is I did not say it was a lie, I said the person was wrong. THE fact is YOU are the person who states “I said it was a lie”... Another claim gone unproven

Do you really want to play pedantic games all the time??? Because you are not really good at them, and that is a FACT.

 

Got news for you we see it how it is, when people are just spiteful for no reason other than they did not get their way, it does not take a genius to work out why they are complaining. If you would prefer I would use other words but they might offend that intellectual sensibility you are trying to play...

Err... Do you really want to talk foolishness??? Are you simply that ignorant you really don't understand what you are saying???

We might have opposing views, the world would be boring without that. BUT when people grasp at anything in an attempt to discredit others (as the comment directly made) to try and show that bias and then turn around and pretend to be thoughtful and considerate people... One has to ask.

BUT as the poster has provided NOTHING of substance and is simply slurring a person using such ignorance as to post the actions of their own drone like party then they lay open to criticism, of which you are now pretending is not right. So what evidence are you using to support the Abbott governments incompetence??? Oh that is right the ALP/Greens incompetence... Talk about foolish.

 

Garry,
you are indeed acting like an idiot.

I am not Labor, I am not Green, however those two parties get it more right then the mob you worship. That of course IMHO.

So, whether the spying was committed under Labor or LIBs isn't the point, the point is how our current government handles this situation, and they do it pretty pretty pretty bad.

Got it now?

regards'

 

What BS, you come running every time your precious party gets any bad press, You complain about the media bias and anything you think will protect them. You fabricate evidence from articles that do not show what you think they do and then announce how Abbott or the Coalition have it all wrong and are dragging the nation backwards. BUT when something you post has been found to be lacking or actually shows something different then it is something else...

SO in your expanded knowledge you are proclaiming how Abbott is handling the complete stuff up of international relations by the ALP\Greens party, what do you believe they are doing??? Oh that is right you don't know because the articles don't tell you... And you want to return to a government that not only destroyed international reputation, but are responsible for the issues you want to complain about NOW... So your proclaimed intentions of attacking Abbott for his actions is also fabrication as you have no idea what they are doing. All you have is that Abbott is in government when the poo hit the fan from the inept actions of the previous government you want back…

SO as in DV's case, who is acting the idiot??? Who is acting the fool??? I believe others have determined such which is why you get upset with me and try insult every chance you get....

 

That silence the left is crying about through social media about the Libs and foreign affairs is the silence from the gap left by the polite Libs not gloating how most the foreign affairs problems were the result of the activity during the previous ALP governments. The left just has no class to know when to drop the mindless hate politics, and seems oblivious to when they are making fools of themselves, but then again Carr, Rudd and Gillard were a laughing stock overseas so they've got good role models. That's why Abbott et al have been telling ppl overseas Australia is back for business - because foreign nations saw the ineptitude. Heck, who can forget Swan getting the 'Best Treasuer' award - talk about dinner for schmucks.

 

And these are the people you want to put back

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2...y-on-some-charges-acquitted-on-others/?cs=305

The very people who oppose anything that would expose the corruption??? Talk about BS

 

You're probably right about the world laughing, no one would begrudge a healthy economy comparative to others.....if they were "giggling" as they are now at the clowns who are controlling our nation we would have had reason for concern!

Swan voted worlds best treasure, only the 2nd time an aussie received such a prestigious award on the world stage, following in the footsteps of Keating. The only country with a AAA rating with a stable outlook made me laugh too!

 

What planet you on again? The economy inherited (from Libs) was good, the economy handed over (from ALP) was busted. The buzz from OS was about the government, not the economy.... ALP proved them right by doing a shat job.

 

I think he is confusing deficit with debt! Lol!

 

No, why would I want him back?
He is guilty, for me anyway, regardless under which party he served.
His own action made him guilty. This has nothing to do with any party.
Throw him to the lions.
But to stay fair, throw Howard and Abbotts to the lions as well......
regards

 

No it wasn't good! It was in fact a waste! Selling assets willy nilly is a concern, but placing it in a future fund for public servant superannuations was even worse! Years earlier the costs of upgrading or building infrastructure would have been much cheaper! These deceptive clowns used a wonderful opportunity to try and set themselves up as economic managers by sitting on their hands doing nothing! Humpty Dumpty could have sat on his wall and saved money throughout this period, but having the foresight and aptitude to build on Australia's future is where he would have stumbled! Jimima needed a new dress and big ted probably needed a make over! I could have saved more money over those 11 years, if I decide not to fix my leaky roof and invest in a newer more reliable vehicle and send my children to university!

 

SO the protections the ALP/Greens coalition and the attempt to discredit the whistleblower is just the style you look for...

 

Still waiting for that evidence... Or do you still think the words of a liar are good enough... Oh that is right, you did support Gillard...

 

Now don't forget that deficit is different to debt gazza! There is endless information on the net indicating the very same thing Tanner mentioned. NOW........can you provide evidence that Fraser inherited debt from Whitlam? Here comes the twisting and turning.

Howard was the worst treasurer on record and worst prime minister on record...........the realities of his government and his ideologies are coming to the fore. Yeah he hoodwinked many.....13 years of Labor was enough time for many people to forget his atrocious handling of our economy when he was treasurer.

 

Endless???
You took three days to find something about this. But nothing to say "There was "0" government debt from the Whitlam government!"
Now if you want to talk about the differences of NET DEBT AND GROSS DEBT that might let you off the hook. Oh you do know the difference don’t you??? But the fact is you stated that Whitlam had ZERO government debt... What does your link actually say?

http://lowpollutionfuture.treasury.gov.au/documents/1496/PDF/01_Debt.pdf

So pretending that government surplus is supposed demonstration of “zero government debt” is incorrect

SO your article you think is the end all, is actually the end all, IT shows that Whitlam had government debt.
As for Tanner, he lied, I know you believe liars and consider that makes them competent but really the fact he was caught shows his incompetence.

It is funny when you get it wrong, trying to compair apples and oranges....

 

You have a strange way of analysing information! You can't put out this fire sorry gazza! Now where was this evidence of Whitlam leaving debt?

 

Did you not read the quote from your own link 8% of GDP, funny how it is hard to hear you did not read your own link...