CPAC Attendee Tests Positive For Coronavirus, Didn’t Have Contact With Trump

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-cpac-trump-pence_n_5e643381c5b68d6164555902

    In essence this Current Event is what could easily be classified as a close call!

    This OP is intended to highlight the RISKS that we are undergoing RIGHT NOW in the Primaries and will continue to run throughout the election as long as the COVID-19 virus remains active.

    Furthermore this is a NON-PARTISAN ISSUE!

    EVERYONE who attended the CPAC conference was potentially exposed and that INCLUDES the staff at the center where it was held.

    Those attendees could be carrying the virus back to their own communities.

    This identical scenario will happen with ALL CANDIDATES of BOTH PARTIES!

    Giving a heads up to @Quantum Nerd and @MrTLegal since they are both interested in the math behind the exponential spread of this disease.

    What just happened is going to happen over and over again in the coming weeks and months.

    At some point these events are going to have to be stopped for the safety of all concerned.

    So what happens then?

    Do primary voters in the rest of the states no longer get to cast their ballots?

    What if this disease is still around in November?

    How will citizens cast their ballots or will we end up in both cases with masses of mail in ballots instead?

    How long will it take to count all of those ballots?

    We are potentially entering unknown territory here. There are a number of different factors that could make the eventual outcome something that we have never experienced in the past. What are our options and what should we be doing to ensure the safety of ALL concerned?

    Once again this is NON-PARTISAN since it impacts ALL of us regardless of which side of the political aisle we may be on.

    Your thoughts?
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    That is one reason they are keeping the passengers on the Grand Princess cruise ship. They want to determine the exact danger that the virus presents. It is a giant lab experiment.
     
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    Here is where I see this going;

    huffpost.com/entry/new-york-coronavirus-state-of-emergency_n_5e63f95cc5b68d6164553ee7

    NYC has a population of about 8 million and another 8 million commute into the city on a daily basis.

    That means COVID-19 exposure on trains, buses, cabs, diners, door handles, toilets, etc, etc, etc.

    This needs to be taken SERIOUSLY by all of us.
     
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    They are allowing it to dock in [Edit: Oakland] tomorrow!

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gran...oakland-california_n_5e64b0d4c5b6670e72f95c40

    That "lab experiment" could literally "go viral" if they allow the passengers to disembark.
     
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    So you are concerned about everyone and this is not partisan?

    Where was this concern from lefties during the H1N1 pandemic?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    I do not remember such hysteria during this time but then obama was in office so the media had to project that everything was just peachy.

    Please, stop with this garbage.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, here is a good enough reason to switch to internet voting for the election, and video conferencing for speeches and events.
     
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    I agree with the concept of internet voting but the implementation is probably not going to be ready for this November.

    We don't really need videoconferencing since it is possible to live stream via the internet.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has been. I've stopped by COSTCO yesterday, and they' ran out of paper products, chlorine products, cleaning supplies, everything.

    And chicken, too ;)
     
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    Do you get paid to post facile irrelevancies or does it just come naturally?

    Inquiring minds want to know!
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, let me know when inquiring minds walk in; :hug:
     
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    There are 1100 cruise staff on board who will not be allowed to disembark. I haven't found if the guests on board are approx. 3500 people, or if that includes the 1100 staff. I'm guessing there are 4600 on board and 3500 are guests.

    Anyway, they are disembarking the people who need hospitalization first. They haven't decided about the rest yet. If they let everyone off the ship, California residents will be sent for quarantine in California federal facilities and others will be moved to quarantine facilities in the rest of the country.

    There's no reason to panic. These passengers will be treated just like the people we brought back from China and the people from the first cruise ship. They will be sent to federal facilities for a two week observation quarantine period.
     
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    So EVERYONE on that ship is going to be quarantined for 2 weeks after they disembark?

    Besides the military bases where else would they be housed?
     
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    That makes sense.
     
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    I appreciate that they are uncommon in Red States.
     
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    Yes. If they let them off the ship. It's possible they'll only let American citizens off and have the cruise ship deliver the rest to their home countries. We don't know yet. But, even if all get let off, then yes they will be quarantining all of them for 2 weeks. They might let them self-quarantine at home, but I doubt it, since multiple people on-board have the infection and everyone on board was exposed due to the way a cruise ship's ventilation system works.

    We are in "containment" phase. The people in communities who have tested positive get sent to isolation units for treatment, and the government tracks down people who the infected person may have contacted. Those people are usually put under voluntary quarantine in their homes if they are healthy, or in mandatory quarantine if they are showing symptoms, until they can get test results.
     
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    Is that where you live? You poor thing... I appreciate your suffering :hug:
     
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    Thanks for that information.

    Getting back to the OP can you explain what it happening about the thousands of people connected to the CPAC convention that have now disbursed nationwide?

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/trump-vows-more-rallies-despite-cpac-coronavirus-case.html

    Can you explain why your criminal IMPOTUS wants to risk spreading the virus even further just to stroke his own YUUUUGE ego?

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/trump-vows-more-rallies-despite-cpac-coronavirus-case.html

     
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    109,700 people have tested positive for coronavirus out of 7.5 Billion people on planet Earth. The odds of getting it are very low if you don't shake hands or get sneezed or coughed on, and if you don't have some other underlying health conditions.
     
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    Mt wife and I went to Wal-Mart yesterday and it was almost completely out of water. Don't think I've ever seen that happen before.
     
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    Most people with the disease have not been tested.
    But how many people over, say, 65 do have underlying health conditions. I would say that it is in the millions. The risk is that many people will be carriers and not know it. They will visit their parents or grandparents. Underlying health conditions is so vague - is the very common diabetes or angina an underlying health condition.

    Aside, two more have died at that nursing home
     
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    Yes, I saw the Life Care Center news from Kirkland. Also, they're saying that 70 of 180 of the center's employees have COVID-19 symptoms. The government is saying now that you have to have direct transfer from an infected person's nose or mouth to your nose/mouth/eyes to catch it. The virus only lives a few minutes on dry surfaces. It almost sounds like someone in Life Care was intentionally spreading the virus around. They should conduct a thorough investigation.

    We'll have a better idea of the broader national situation in two or three weeks. One million tests have been distributed and that will be four million by the end of next week. The numbers will shoot up with testing, but no one knows how much until we actually know.
     
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    Just by using a door handle or a credit card you could end up getting it.

    You failed to address the issue regarding the CPAC attendees entirely.
     
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    Panic buying occurs on a regular basis whenever there is an impending hurricane. This is just the equivalent on a national scale.
     
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    https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/explainer-how-long-can-coronavirus-survive-on-surfaces-2020-02-28

    Given how quickly it is spreading the odds are it is NOT only via person to person.
     
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