Curious...do homophobes think they're going to "bring it all back"?

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    I oppose "GAY marriage" because our Constitution calls for Equal Protection of the law. NOT unequal by design for the benefit of gays.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Why because only heterosexual couples have the potential of procreation. What possible justification could there be for limiting marriage to sexual couples?
     
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    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep telling yourself that Dix....

    I don't see your opposition to other constitutional issues any where near as bitterly antagonistic.

    You've got baggage on this one Dix.
     
  4. Johnny-C

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    That makes no sense. How is what you suggest covered under the Constitution?

    Still, I suspect that many courts and States will ultimately disagree with you.

    That isn't so. I know that you see it that way, but the essence of what most as suggesting concerning homosexual marriages, is equal in virtually every significant aspect.

    So, what the hell are you talking about?

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    Correct. I don't see what he's talking about... and I've tried many times.
     
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    It IS limited to sexual couples rather than only couples who procreate. Example: a marriage can be annulled based on "consummation" but not on infertility. Thus, a woman married to a man who has discovered he is sterile doesn't have reasonable grounds for divorce if they have already had sexual intercourse. By your definition, the government should have no interest in regulating such a union and yet offers no way of dissolving it.
     
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    More homophobia with a large helping of ignorance. :(

    Fact 1: Homosexual marriages do have children in them (one way or the other).

    Fact 2: There is more to a serious and healthy relationship than sexual relations.


    I suspect that you aren't interested in the actual truth, only those views you prefer to make up.
     
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    Exactly...

    Any lesbian couple can get sperm at the sperm bank.

    Any gay couple can hire a surrogate mother.

    There are plenty of lesbian and gay couples that have children already, because they had them in a previous heterosexual relationship before coming out.

    And I haven't even gotten started on adoption
     
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    Of course. But many who are homophobic bigots, will ignore all of that just to justify their 'talking'. :(
     
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    I hate to parrot a cable news talking head...but Chris Mathews did put it succinctly and accurately when he said something like "the positions that enlarge our freedoms tend to win out over time"
     
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    What potential does a heterosexual woman who has had a hysterectomy have for procreation? Should she be denied marriage rights?
     
  11. Johnny-C

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    Amen! I've noticed that was true, long before Mathews said it. He is right.

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    Perfect point.
     
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    Infertile couples, people who already have enough kids from a previous marriage, people who don't want kids, people who adopt kids, etc........and so on......
    :roll:
     
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    It's the automatic FAIL of the anti-gay rights guys who try "Gay couples can't have babies, therefore they can't have the right to marriage"......infertile heterosexual couples.

    If they were consistant they'd have to deny them too the right to marry....but they don't. Ergo, their argument is dishonest, as are they.
     
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    If you are going to respond to my questions, you might as well take a shot at answering them
     
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    ANY two people can do that. Whats your justification for special treatment when the couple happens to be gay? Probably more children right now being raised by a single mother and grandmother in the home together, than have ever been raised by gay couples, and yet only in the case of a gay couple is this a problem for you people.
     
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    None. It wouldnt be a denial of Equal protection to exclude them. But where you people go wrong in your logic is this belief that they must be excluded.
     
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    Who are those you refer to as, "you people"?

    And their "belief" is actually as you suggest?

    You are assuming too much, I think.
     
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    I leave the forum for the weekend and I come back to this? What a damned shame.
     
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    Constitutional law DIRECTLY refuting your assertion.

    Got anything other than your beliefs, fueled by emotion and hormones, to back up your assertions?........I didnt think so.

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    Any and all who want to jump in that line with you.
     
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    Oh well. So be it.
     
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    Homphobia isn't a serious problem in this country - gays just have a severe need to feel persecuted.
     
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    Your opinion; please prove it.
     
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    Most homosexuals are never beaten up, or stoned, just for being gay.
     
  24. Johnny-C

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    Another STUPID comment. So what? How much homophobia, hatred and bigotry does it take to generate problems within this society? Even so, gays are learning to fight back and that is a good thing.

    2nd Amendment solutions aren't just for heterosexuals anymore.
     
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    Because...being dishonorably discharged from the military destroying your hard worked for career wasn't a reality...no...not at all.

    Keep telling yourself that, doesn't change reality.
     
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