Democrats Cry Crocodile Tears About ‘Our Democracy’ While Trying To Tear It Down

Are you kidding? You got Trump elected, who put 3 hard right wingers on the court, who reversed Roe V wade, which triggered Ohio's anti abortion law which does not have a rape exception, and thus ultimately responsible for endangering the health of a 10 year old girl, a victim of rape, whom the state of Ohio tried to force her to give birth whereupon she had to flee to neighboring Indiana. There are many more examples of this nature, the unforeseen horrific consequences of Roe's reversal, which would not have been reversed had the court maintained it's former 5/4 court when Robert's was the swing vote. Without his swing vote, there are no checks on the excesses of conservatism.


Think of the emotional trauma she has been through, damage the state has done to that child? It boggles the mind. So much for Republicans not being for 'big government',

Now, of course, I anticipate a response like, 'no, the true endangerer of the child's health was rapist', but, don't bother if that is your reply,because the logical fallacy in that is that one wrong doesn't negate the other.

 

Well, at least we had a choice to remove the batshit crazy guy, which was a success.

 

I've posted many times my many reasons for having contempt for Trump. one time, I decided to put it all in one post:

http://politicalforum.com/index.php...arty-does-this.599375/page-10#post-1073447366

 

Apparently you didn't read #3 of my reply.

But who is sucking up more government aid? Why red states of course.

 

I believe that was the part you want me to defend?

I'm thankful not to be following you. But, here ya go, Separation of Church and State is a fundamental principal of OUR Constitution. It is the FIRST thing mentioned in the Bill of Rights.

The First Amendment Encyclopedia
Establishment Clause (Separation of Church and State)
The first clause in the Bill of Rights states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”
https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/885/establishment-clause-separation-of-church-and-state

Separation of Church and State
Separation of Church and State is a phrase that refers to the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. The phrase dates back to the early days of U.S. history, and Thomas Jefferson referred to the First Amendment as creating a “wall of separation” between church and state as the third president of the U.S. The term is also often employed in court cases. For example, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black famously stated in Everson v. Board of Education that “[t]he First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state,” and “[t]hat wall must be kept high and impregnable.”
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/separation_of_church_and_state

 

If states can vote why can't they murder?

 

That is no longer true. The Electoral College, today, is made up, mostly, of prominent members/contributors to a States Political party, contrary to what the founders envisioned; as explained in Federalist 68.

 

I would argue that there isn't a single American that "worships" President Biden. The majority of us are just thankful for a President that is working hard to do his job with the least amount of fan fair and bluster. Which is a 180' change from tRaitor tRump, whom spent his waking hours stirring up **** between his followers and everybody else in America. And, made it a point to create his own reality, in the press, every chance he got. He never actually did anything Presidential, but he sure kept us all on edge.

 

Sure, sure, "separation of church and state".

But you said it was in the constitution, and it ain't.

What you said is that the constitution "specifically spells out that there will be a separation of church and state". It does not say that at all. What it says is that Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion. Congress is only one branch of government.

The term "wall of separation between church and state" is from a letter T. Jefferson penned to somebody who nobody seems to remember, but they always know that one line. It's getting tiresome. Here is something else T. Jefferson penned- The Declaration of Independence- But nobody remembers that letter.They just remember the "separation of church and state" letter that was addressed to someone, somewhere, someplace, in some dimension that nobody seems to care about.

 

The part of the First Amendment, quoted, has always been referred to as the "separation of church and state clause". You can get all pedantic and be the only one, or one of the few, that want's to debate that but I've quoted 2 sources that agree, with the majority of Constitutional Scholars, that; "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion" IS the "separation of church and state" clause.

Most people accept the foregoing and cited explanations, which you will see if you bother to follow the links ... or not. I DON'T CARE.

Ooo, ya got me. That and $3 bucks will buy you a cup of coffee.

Keep beating it, if it makes you feel good.

Actually I know the Declaration of Independence like children (used) to know their prayers. That and $3 bucks will get me a cup of coffee, I know. But it means something to me.

 

Those silly leftists, always wanting to change names and definitions.

Do you really think you can convince to courts to refer to The Establishment Clause as "the separation of church and state clause"?

There must have been a sale on ink that you feel the need to use four extra words.

 

states don't vote-electors from the states vote. why do most felons identify with the democrats?

 

and you don't figure out that retirees and military bases in red states queer the numbers

 

and I reject that as political excrement. none of that actually impacts you.

 

I’m sure, like Green Man, you can explain away anything you like for the sake of your Mango Monarch.

 

Actually “The Courts” would understand perfectly OUR Nations principle of “separation of church and state”; and, without even referencing the First Amendment.

You would know about the ink better than me. You’re sure burning up a lot making an argument out of nothing.

But hey; you do you!

 

Mango monarch-I don't have any rulers. Unlike the Talibiden, I am a citizen not a subject or a surf. the fact is-people making over 100K a year have always supported the GOP at higher numbers than the Democrats. And those sucking on the public teats have favored the party that panders to them

 

Actually much of “that” affects ALL Americans, even to this day. It IS evidence that tRaitor tRump was a pissantdent gone rough.

 

Hummm I have many close friends that make much more than that. Many, like myself started as “Republicans”. Very few still are. But then, I can’t think of any that don’t have one or, like myself, more degrees.

It’s hard, but apparently not impossible, to peddle, CURRENT, republican bullshit to educated people.

 

It really comes down to did they say "Please" or did they say "or else". I don't know the answer.

 

So no retraction from you?

What are you scared to admit your mistake that you don't have to correct yourself?

Isn't there a forum rule about spreading falsehoods such as "Our Constitution, specifically spells out that ther WILL BE a separation between Church and State."?

Because that statement is NOT true.

 

Cheese and Rice, you are taking this to a ridiculous level of childishness. There is nothing to retract, so no. But, I'm done stooping to your level, I could use little words and say them slowly, helping you pronounce them along the way; IF we were talking in person. But we're not. So ...

 

I call BS-nothing Trump did harmed you in any way

 

Dude, no.

There is plenty of rich guilt stricken losers who think they can save the world - if only they could force everyone to "help".

 

So that's what a statement from you is worth.