Difference Between Obama and Trump Wins

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  1. Ronstar

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    we have a lot more to worry about from white supremacists
     
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    The New Democratic Party, and it's supporters, hate free, non-approved, speech.

    Anyone attempting to exercise that right needs to be destroyed through violent repulsion.

    History repeating itself.....
     
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    Antifa can't fight interpreted by a leftist.
     
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    White supremacists are the least of the nation's problems. Just ignore them. Drive by shootings in Chicago are way more of a problem.
     
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    A big slanted IMO. Not a trump voter, but I saw his voters happy, jubilant, full of hope for change, as the losers, hillary voters went into full blown hatred, even believing in tin foil hat theories about putin and trump. Which continues to this day. Never let up, with MSM throwing gas on the fire daily.

    So it is a matter of perspective. If you want to see anger, look no farther than a hillary voter. And it is even more vile than anything we saw, being hurled at obama. And he deserved to have it hurled at him, and did, but not in these numbers we see coming from the DP.

    The dems always take it to the extreme. And while the trump demographics has a tiny few neo nazis and KKK people(there just are not that many of them) boy oh boy, there are many more butt hurt, pissed off hillary democrats, exponentially so, that it has become quite the mob.
     
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    Their brain hurts because they've never used it.
     
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    . I see you are catching on. Go around the country and compare every state, county by county. You'll find that the people living in liberal areas are better off than those who live in conservative areas.

    The fastest growing economies in the country are along the West Coast, where Democrats dominate. The worse economies are all in solidly Republican/conservative states.

    One would think that eventually conservatives would catch on and see how their economic ideology had been making their lives worse. And that, there, on the other side of the country, there are liberals who have a popping economy, all while preserving the environment and offering ever more rights and freedoms to the people.
     
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    Would love to see the videos and new reports about those. Unless you are talking about the ones who aren't bashing stores and just fight with ANTIFA instigators.
     
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    Obama was twice elected with over 51% of Americans voting for him.

    In 2016, 2.8 million more Americans voted against Trump than for him.

    Hindsight allows Americans to look back on a two-term POTUS who was accorded around 60% approval when he left office.

    Trump has consistently been assigned significantly negative numbers (presently 52.4% disapproval / 41.7% approval)

    Angry White Guys see the demographic ineluctability of younger, better-educated, more diverse Americans increasingly constituting the nation's electorate, with women participating at a much higher rate, and they sense that Trumpery is their demographic's Last Hurrah of unchallenged dominion over all others in politics, law, industry, religion, etc. for over two centuries.

    That makes some of them very, very pissy.
     
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    Why are they coming to Portland looking for a fight? I suspect their brains have short circuited. After all when one listens to right-wing rhetoric one gets the idea that liberals are on the bottom end of the economic/social/intellectual scale. I imagine they have problems accepting the fact that liberals tend to be better off. Bzzzzr Bzzzzft. BzzzzzT must smash liberals, crush liberal @&!%#, buzzzzt. @&&€£¥#. Bzzzzt. bzzzzt must hate must smash, Bzzzzt buzzer. Bzzzzzt.
     
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    You haven't seen the hate-filled violent right-wing thugs that keep coming to Portland.
     
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    thats weird, the rest of us remember cops getting assinated, freeways being blocked, feces being thrown, and ferguson burning at the hands of leftists. Why do you think you dont remember that?
     
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    THAT says it all...
     
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    FROM THE RIGHT WING SNOPES

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    p[olitifacts.png And for balance p[olitifacts.png from the left leaning politifacts
     
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    You know I can keep this up for a week, The idea that the left is more violent then the right. We don't have gun bubbas like the right does and the KKK, American Nazi party and the white supremacist don't support the left like they do the right.
     
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    I'm totally against the NRA and in groups where guns are the subject I have been threatened over 10 times that gun bubbas where going to kill me.
     
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    YOu know I always see those numbers and such but having lived in Kansas for 35 years I just dont see it. I always see houses being built, jobs being offered, and low crime, combined with good schools. I mean if Kansas is the bottom of the heap everyone else must be living in some kind of utopia. Because I can honestly say my state is a great place to live and raise a family.
     
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    You want your state or city go down the ******* , just elect a Conservative government. That's the most tried and true way to destroy your state city and county.
     
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    You mean like Chicago which has bankrupt the state. With all that killing they sure are better off. There's an exodus. I guess they just don't realize how lucky they are. If Cal is so wonderful, why the push to divide it in 3? Why did they allow themselves to be burnt to the ground? What's Governor Moonbeam doing about it? Or how about Detroit, Baltimore, St.Louis Mo. and New Orleans?
     
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    It is the same blind faith in ideology over pragmatism that results in the US having, by far, the most expensive health care system on earth that fails to cover tens of millions while all advanced nations cover everyone at around half the cost. The superior paradigm is obvious, but Medicare becomes a "socialist plot!" if lower-risk age demographics are incorporated to lower its price tag.

    There is an empirical correlation between level of education, personal wealth, health, family stability, etc., but some rage that mentioning that reality is not "PC."

    BEST EDUCATED: Massachusetts, Maryland, Connecticut, Vermont, Colorado, Virginia, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Washington, New Jersey

    LEAST EDUCATED: Mississippi, West Virginia, Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, Nevada, Tennessee, Oklahoma, New Mexico


    That does not in any way suggest that anyone is better than anyone else. It merely underscores why they are doing better.
     
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