Do white people benefit the most from gun-control?

But not the rights of business owners or those who want to follow the 2nd amendment to the letter. And no, I don't have any restrictions on who can own a gun.

 

Because we have been living under a statist rule since Lincoln first invaded the south to not lose those states and revenue to the federal government.

 

Well you lost that war so I think its time you accepted that. LOL

 

That's nice. No a business can not have its own stinger missles. LOL

 

Putting "LOL" at the end of your mindless sentence doesn't validate your point. "I" didn't loose any war. I may have grown up in FL, my family is from the north, and I don't side with the south because of why they left. I do know my history, and do know that two wrongs don't make a right. Especially if you are trying to play the "slave freedom morality" card, since that was never the beginning intension of Lincoln sending hundreds of thousands of people to die for his own ego.

Why not? Are you thinking people will just start arbitrarily shooting off missiles if they legally owned them? Like how people who legally own small arms go off just shooting their arms right?

 

The war is over. That issue was decided long ago. But as I said...you are entitled to your opinion.

This is getting ridiculous. Stinger missles can shoot down a plane. Come on...this is a joke.

 

Your claim fails outside of NYC and select high crime cities. If more guns means less crime, then there should be increased crime rates all over the USA, but the facts are just the opposite. There are more guns in private hands than ever before, and the crime rates are decreasing.

Until you deal with that blatant fact, all your wild gun control claims are pointless and worthless.

 

A blatantly false statement

 

LOL he says LOL whenever LOL he LOL doesn't LOL have Lol a lol clue

 

LOL the train lol of pro LOL gun LOL laws continue Lol forward, LOL arguing LOL hypotheticals Lol with Lol him is LOL stupid.

 

I agree.

 

really? who are those

 

And laser pointers can make planes go haywire. Whats your point? Do you honestly think no one outside a government has a stinger missile already?

 

Do you honestly think we should let people walk around airports carrying stinger missiles? LOL

 

Inside the airport? That's up to the owner. But whats the difference between one person carrying it while wearing civilian clothes and someone else who is wearing a military uniform?

 

Who do you think owns the airport? Lol

 

That's an interesting theory to have. It would help to explain what's going on. I'm curious to see how the break of social services played in preventing familial homicides in the first place. Perhaps white people also benefit from social institutions for people who are running away from abusive partners or guardians?

 

Did the guns shoot the suicidal people all by themselves?

Does the presence of ropes, poison gasses, trains and pills cause the much higher suicide rate in places like Japan with few guns?
http://www.doiserbia.nb.rs/img/doi/0042-8450/2006/0042-84500606575Y.pdf

In Japan, a home with a rope or cord, poison gas and pills are going to be more likely used than guns for people to kill themselves with.

 

I have addressed this claim before:





So gun ownership has declined according to three different surveys (CBS News poll, General Social Survey, Gallup).

And what about outside of NYC? Let's take a look at Chicago, for example:

Only 4.6% murder victims were white in Chicago. 18.9% were Hispanic and 75.3% were black. 83.4% of murders were committed with guns (mostly handguns).
http://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2011-Murder-Report.pdf

So again we see a pattern of white people disproportionately benefiting from strict gun control.

 

Are either of these polls scientific or account for who all is lying about gun ownership because they don't trust people asking them if they own a gun?

Next question is, of the murders in Chicago, how many were committed by people who owned legally obtained guns vs gangs?

 

All the charts and graphs and everything else claiming gun ownership is falling is clear balderdash. Firearms ownership is on the rise; the reports of new people becoming gun owners flow across all demographics. Firearms training for new owners is hard to find due to classes being so heavily booked.

To claim otherwise is to defy reality. When you realize most "surveys" are phone or online surveys, and people have a strong antipathy to admitting they own things like firearms, that renders the results of such surveys into nonsense.

 

Wrong.

And that's been discussed many times in the forum.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/11/gun-ownership-declining-dont-believe-it/
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160708/the-myth-of-declining-gun-ownership
http://www.people-press.org/2013/03/12/section-3-gun-ownership-trends-and-demographics/

This was the best and most factual, it used to be free, now you need a subscription to WSJ
https://blogs.wsj.com/numbers/guns-present-polling-conundrum-1223/

The claim that gun ownership is declining is based on phone surveys and depends upon people telling a stranger about owning firearms. Its not a coincidence that the so-called decline started when Bill Clinton (gun banner) was elected and immediately started talking about a gun ban. I and most of the people I know, will not answer a survey about gun ownership. That biases the poll results.

The second part of your claim - that a declining number of people are buying all the firearms - is ludicrous. Every other measure besides the phone survey indicates gun ownership is skyrocketing - carry permits, purchase permits, FFL checks, gun sales, club membership.

 

We have been over this point many times before. The only evidence presented on the part of yourself, to demonstrate the notion that firearms ownership rates are decreasing, is based on the responses given in completely random and anonymous polls, presented by individuals in a completely unsecured manner, with no way of verifying their answers. At best you have nothing more than the claim that fewer individuals are openly admitting to firearms ownership.

But as with every other time this is pointed out, you deny the point and ask why would anyone have reason to provide false information about owning a firearm, in an attempt to suggest that everyone answered in an honest manner, rather than refusing to participate in the poll, or knowing supply false information to a random stranger that is asking invasive and personal questions.

 

if that is true, how come the BM is so frantic these days?

oh BTW it looks like less LEGAL guns does mean more crime


http://www.realclearpolicy.com/arti...a_nationwide_problem_110234.html?sf77939628=1

 

Weak. There is no reason to believe that gun owners have become more dishonest over time. In fact, the opposite would seem to be true now that Supreme Court rulings stand in the way of gun bans at the national, state, and local levels. It is more likely that there has been a bigger decline in gun ownership than revealed by those surveys.