Do you agree with race realism?

So what you are saying is you don't need a grocery store to have a healthy diet, a dollar store will do?

 

I'm saying your information about dollar stores was incorrect, so that probably feeds into your larger theory about Dollar Stores/Grocery stores as being incorrect as well.

 

Its evident you do not understand the "larger theory".

 

Very good points. I can see that happening.

Cities are (have been for decades) doomed. They were always a disaster on scales greater than about 50,000 people. The relatively short span of time they've appeared to thrive, was just dumb luck more than anything else .. and an illusion either way.

 

Universities and musuems.

 

Maybe not as cheap as spending 3 hrs cooking from scratch, but cheap none the less.
$6 to feed 4 or 5 people and spend 5 minutes of cook time. Most people are opting for that route.

 

I have not seen fresh produce in many dollar type stores. That includes all the different so called dollar stores.
Not even sure one can get a bagged salad.

 

That's just not true. Most people would know that eating like that is very bad for health, especially children. Not many are so irresponsible that they'll choose their own convenience over the health of their children.

 

Of course it's bad for one's health. I've never said different.
In fact, I said the foods poor people eat, because of being cheap and easy, is why poor people lack nutrition and threreby may have lower intelligence.
It's what started this subtopic.

 

Well they have been economically useful for thousands of years, and today they still have some economic utility, but that economic utility no longer requires a massive population. Your number of 50,000 seems like a pretty good max to me.

 

Fresh produce? Probably not, however I'm sure they would carry it if they thought there was a market for it.

I doubt there is.

 

No, they eat it because it's EASY.

Stop pretending it's cheap. No is buying that, because it's patent nonsense.

 

Absolutely. But the size thing was always going to be the problem. Smaller scale means that economic utility could continue, without the grotesque conditions for humanity that go with larger cities.

 

So should dollar stores be forbidden? When I lived in the states I got some very good deals there. 20 dollar sunglasses for one dollar for example. Plus very decent food for way less than even Walmart. How is this not a benefit to the poor community?

 

If there was a high demand for fresh food in these "food deserts," a fruit and vegetable stand would be a profitable enterprise, no? If the dollar store doesn't sell fruits and vegetables, doesn't that leave an opening for someone to start a small farmer's market in the area? Again, if there was a high demand for these products and the potential to make a nice profit, some entrepreneur would already be doing so.

It has to be more than just the dollar stores putting grocery stores out of business. Either there isn't much demand for fresh fruit and vegetables, or some other issue is preventing entrepreneurs from selling those items in close proximity to your location.

Perhaps you and a couple of neighbors could pool your resources and start a small farmers market or co-op? That would be terrific, you would be solving the problems of the food desert for your community, you yourself would have the fresh products, and you could turn a profit on top of that. But maybe the demand for fresh produce just isn't all that great?

 

Exactly. A produce barrow (as per exist in Europe, the UK, and Asia) would be a goldmine. Very cheap to set up, and low rent (just a city license). If what Edna says is true, and that people are desperate for fresh produce, it seems a no-brainer.

 

It's cheap. Really cheap.

 

Do you need to believe this, in order to avoid thinking wrong thoughts about lazy people because their skin is brown?

 

Come again? You gave ONE example that was really cheap, a reviewer described it as "the best deal in the store" at WALMART, which many poor urban people dont have ready access to, and I showed you could make a similar but healthier product at home for half the cost.

BTW, I can't help bragging: a few days ago I found regular ground beef at $C1.47/lb, with most of it marked down 30% because it was dated the next day. That's C$1.03/lb, or US$0.78/lb at the current exchange rate. I froze 45lb of the stuff.

 

I never once mentioned a skin color. Only poor people in general. A shameful response bringing skin color into it.

 

Come on. The whole processed food industry is based on Cheap and Easy. That's why they have so much market share.

This is not anything new.

People go to college and get Chemical Degrees and go work for the food industry.
Processed foods are not real food, they're chemical knock offs. By design.

Hence, cheap and easy. Shell life. Marketing.

 

I bought a 1/4 cow last fall.
$5/lb for about 100#. Includes hamburger, but all cuts of roast and steaks. T bones, Ribeyes, etc.

 

Come on DA .. we all know that when American Progressives say 'poor', they mean 'black'. And we all know that that means finding 'reasons' to explain away things like gluttony and laziness, lest ye be seen to slight the noble brown folk .... as though they're fully realised humans, capable of error.

 

It's a marketing ploy, Dear, designed to appeal to the lazy. It takes all of five minutes in the lab to break down one of these 'cheap' meals and compare costings to the raw ingredients weight for weight. There is no reality on earth in which they come out cheaper. It's simply not possible. Even your gut instinct should tell you that ADDING a whole bunch of processing/packaging/refridgeration/transport etc is not going to reduce the price of the ingredients.

 

No, it's based on easy and advertising. That's why Coke can charge 10 times the production cost for carbonated sugar water.

That's just appealing to people's instinct for laziness and gluttony.

It has a long shelf life, and it's easy to prepare. It is not cheap, but marketing gets people who can't afford it to buy it anyway.