Do you approve sex before marriage?

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Do you approve sex before ( outside of ) marriage?

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  1. Heretic

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    A woman's value in life is worth much less if she is a slut, and does not have her virginity to offer for marriage.

    Stealing/Raping a girl's virginity, as liberals tend to do by SIN, devalues and disrespects her most of all. That is like adding an instant 100,000 miles on the barometer from 0. You just destroyed the value of the car with your recklessness.
     
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    I already know the "help" I need. And that is TOLERANCE. My problem is very clear to me. I fail to walk in Christ's path........I'm not as PATIENT AS HE IS. I'm not as strong as CHRIST MY LORD. I don't have that kind of spiritual strength. I wish I did, but I don't. My hatred and contempt and despise for people overcomes and overwhelms me. It has become too difficult to manage and control. I'm letting it out, slowly now, slowly unwinding with each and every response here. I'm letting this lava inside my heart pour out all over the ground. I don't care if it burns everything.

    Sometimes, SINNERS need to be burned in the hellfires. Have you ever considered the truth behind God's Will? What do YOU KNOW about GOD????????
     
  3. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some sluts are worth their weight in gold and many virgins, no doubt have stinky (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)....Only religious buffoons with tiny dicks are all hung up on marrying virgins...Do you believe that muslim crap about getting 100 virgins after completing certain tasks? A barometer can not have 100,000 miles on it champ....Please get a friggin' grip. A woman has not lost any of her value because she has been banged a few hundred times and most become a lot more fun after a few laps around the track.

    Cheers
     
  4. Heretic

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    Who said anything about what "I want"???????

    I'm telling you as IT IS, not how I want it to be. Children are the material possessions, like slaves, of their parents. If children were not material property, like an iPhone or a wallet, then kidnapping would be impossible. PROVE ME WRONG OR SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    You're just angry because if I had daughters, that I would PROTECT THEM from liberal slime, scumbags, and liars. You'd fear that a beautiful daughter would be impossible FOR YOU to acquire. And that's because you don't deserve to reproduce with TRUE CHRISTIAN women. You are unwelcome, because you are a typical liberal SINNER.


    Yeah, right, whatever you say SCIENTIST.......you're the "expert" here


    Women never have "full reign" over their bodies.

    That is why fathers, you know, TRUE CHRISTIAN MEN, protect the chastity of their daughters from liberal scumbags, liars, rapists, and thieves.

    If you eliminate TRUE CHRISTIAN FATHERS from the pictures, then all we are left with are endless liberal sluts, prostitutes, and zionist pimps, selling women and young girls for dollar bills. This is your dream land. This is what YOU WANT MOST OF ALL, SINNER.


    You're just sad, because your dream land is blocked, by me. I will not allow you to dream this wicked dream of yours, this liberal HELL ON EARTH.

    You're just angry that some men want to protect their PROPERTY, their daughters, and actually love their daughters.

    Liberal fathers cannot "love" their daughters, because they don't care about their value as girls and women. A liberal father would let his daughter have sex with animals. How much more irresponsible can you possibly get than that???? A liberal father may even go so far as to promote his young daughter, into becoming a slut as soon as possible. WHOOPS, she had sex at 13. The liberal father doesn't care, why would he?

    To a liberal father, his daughters can only ever be sluts with no pride in themselves, no value or dignity.


    You mean OWNERSHIP, don't lie to me. I see through your liberal lies. I exist to destroy your religion of liberalism.


    DON'T DENY HIM. YOU KNOW HE EXISTS. You're just angry that your dreams will be shattered, and you can't get whatever you want in life, as if you are a spoiled young brat, a child and boy. That's what your liberal ideology is all about. You want SIN SIN SIN.


    WRONG


    See how quickly you liberals contradict yourselves and make exceptions????????

    I should plaster your lies all over the internet, copy and paste your lies wherever I go


    If mother's OWN their children, as you just ADMITTED THAT THEY DO, then what makes you think women are not the property of men, who in turn, own them????


    You're going to wake up to a new vision tomorrow morning, I'll guarantee you that much
     
  5. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is God's will that we all get some snatch on the slide once in a while sport. You've been reading some bogus material. Check your sources and start to enjoy life as your creator intended. You are really blowing it!!
     
  6. Heretic

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    NOOOOOOOOOOO, the first is your liberal ideology blinding you. Liberalism promotes SIN, sex for pleasure, because without this, liberalism would be exposed for the Satanic lie that it is......it is sexual perversion and nothing more, a MENTAL ILLNESS rampant in our ONCE GREAT NATION.


    Many "Christians" are not really Christians. By definition, TRUE CHRISTIANS are those who have the spiritual capacity to engage monogamous behavior, and form lifelong attachments and commitments. This is a spiritual quality. But more is needed, obviously. Not only must one be SPIRITUALLY STRONG, to follow Christ, but you must also WALK IN HIS PATH and LISTEN FOR THE WORD OF GOD.



    You have no idea what this cancer of SIN in our ONCE GREAT SOCIETY is going to do in a "few generations".

    Cancer spread quickly, you Liberal, heed my words and warnings


    Your "freedom" is your slavery, you are bound by SIN and nothing more

    You know nothing of true FREEDOM, granted by the GRACE OF GOD


    You're already there, or close enough
     
  7. Heretic

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    You'll have to ask the Muslims about what their Prophet Muhammad has spoken about God, NOT ME.

    My heresy is strictly CHRISTIAN, not Muslim at all.


    If everybody in the world were granted one free car to buy, then would people want new cars or used cars? They'd want NEW cars, NOT used cars. Used cars have lesser value, it's common sense. Used women have less value, it's common sense.

    The better question is.........why are you LIMITING YOURSELF? Why are YOU settling for less, when you could have more????????

    I know the answer to my own question. It's because your mind is poisoned by the religion of zio-liberalism.
     
  8. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your daighters will probably end up in having sex the back seat of a cadilac with a black rapper by the time they are 14 just to (*)(*)(*)(*) you off.....LOL
     
  9. Heretic

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    SINNING is not how I "enjoy" life.

    Why not have sex for procreation AND pleasure? It's because you're blind to consequences. You liberals hate the idea of becoming responsible for yourselves, your actions. You hate the idea of marriage and family. Instead, you SINNERS want to steal the love from chaste, virgin girls. You want to rape them with your lies. Believe it or not, this carries a huge SPIRITUAL TOLL. And this toll has been steadily ticking away with each year since this cancer of our society has settled.

    But GOD, HAS, BEEN, WATCHING!!!!!!!
     
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    The best you can do is dream of your SIN, because that's as close as you'll ever get to committing it
     
  11. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am 60 years old champ, I'm through procreating now and I have absolutly no interest in porking virgins...I prefer a tasty old red haired slut now and again....Sue me.
     
  12. MegadethFan

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    You did.

    No you are telling me what you want.

    Wrong.

    But kidnapping is wrong because parents have guardianship - not ownership, if their children.

    I already proved your wrong before. LOL

    YAY! Thank God you dont have children. What a miserable life they would lead, and what a nightmare if they were girls. Dont worry, I'll reproduce when I feel like it. For now I'll just stick to having sex.

    Yep.

    Yes, they do upon reaching 18.

    That is why fathers, you know, TRUE CHRISTIAN MEN, protect the chastity of their daughters from liberal scumbags, liars, rapists, and thieves.[/QUOTE]
    Nonsense.

    Yep. If girls wants to be sluts or prostitutes, then they can go right ahead, I wont stop them.

    LOL People can already be prositutes and be sluts. My "dream" is a reality. LOL Your kind is near extinction.

    Daughters aint their property. They can be taken away by the state if they treat them wrongly - like as slaves.

    He'd care. Liberal fathers love their daughters.

    That's nonsense.

    Ownership is not guardianship or custody. Educate yourself.

    LOL God is a joke mate. Luckily, people are slowly moving away from him. Soon enough, no one will care about God as a concept of significant importance.

    How so?

    I should plaster your lies all over the internet, copy and paste your lies wherever I go
    Where was the contradiction?

    Men do not own women. Women only own children in their womb - ie a fetus.

    What do you mean?
     
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    So marriage is the bedrock of entire societies and civilization.

    If you destroy marriage in a society, then you have successfully undone its entire past, present, and future.

    This is what Zio-liberalism has done to the United States. And these foreign agents must pay a spiritual price, for going against GOD.


    Maybe someday you'll grow up and see why marriage is important and absolutely valuable to all life


    So the future depends on it


    You don't have morals. You're a liberal.


    There is no such thing as pleasure without pain.

    Your pleasure comes from another organism's pain.

    Your rape of women, your using them, comes at their suffering. Do you think prostitutes are proud of themselves, or have "chosen" their line of work? What kind of young girl, your daughter maybe, would CHOOSE to become a prostitute, a whore, as a grown woman? In which society on Earth, is it glorified to become a sex worker, except in the United States of America?


    Then prove what is "sound mind"
     
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    Have you ever had sex?

    Not at all. What you describe as "SIN" is freedom, and moral freedom at that.

    Most Christians disagree with you.

    LOL Yeah I do - make everyone more happy and free.

    Sorry, aint going to happen.

    And I enjoy it that way, since it is perfectly moral to live by the slavery of my personal interests where I respect the interests of others.

    Yes I do. 'Freedom' granted by God is a joke. Truthful and objective moral freedom rejects half of his teachings.

    No, I am there - most people are. Notice how everyone is really happy about it?
     
  15. Heretic

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    I'm saying young liberal men, like you, lie to young girls, steal their virginity (rape) with those lies, and then later dump them on the street as sluts

    This is the plight of our society today. Liberals are preying on the VALUE of young girls and women, and consuming spirituality without retribution

    God will come and rectify this SIN, as He has throughout all of history, and has been written in the HOLY BIBLE


    For you, "changing their mind" is no different than a lie

    If you deflower a virgin, then you own her forever. You have stolen (raped) her essence in life. This is how women are valuable. Young girls, sluts, give this away freely, when it's actually their most valuable commodity and POSSESSION in life. Nobody really respects sluts, secretly. Everybody judges them harshly, except maybe CHRIST. Christ was the defender of the weakest, including sluts and whores and prostitutes. He was the only man in history who ever TRULY cared for the abused.

    You're a liberal, you wouldn't know anything about it. You're a consumer, taker, and have not yet paid for what you've taken. There is a SPIRITUAL TOLL to all things.


    And you will recommend abortions when the EFFECT of sin is realized

    First you recommend rape, LIE to a young girl, steal her virginity........then to add to SIN, you recommend a SECOND SIN, and this is murder of an unborn child

    Liberals SIN twice


    You're a hypocrite.


    You mean lies?

    What do YOU know about "love"? You don't even know the meaning of the word.


    There is no such thing as a "right" to "fun" or SIN.................................


    You must be completely out of touch from reality?


    THEN YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    LOOOOOOOOL


    Correct yourself...........virginity isn't important to who?????

    Virginity is not important to LIBERAL young men or LIBERAL fathers, who secretly hate women, disrespect women, and USE women for sexual gratification, which is actually a sexual perversion, instead of having sex for procreative reasons


    Does "feeling happy" include raising the child or aborting/murdering it?????


    You're wrong as usual
     
  16. violadude

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    Here's what I think, may be slightly off topic, but:

    A relationship without sex is just a friend
    Sex without friendship is just a fun night or two

    You need both to really have a romantic relationship.
    Although who am I to define everyone's relationships? haha it's just my personal opinion.
     
  17. MegadethFan

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    Well, no.

    Nonsense.

    LOL Thanks for the laugh mate.

    Are you married?

    How so?

    I do have morals and am not a liberal. However, liberals do have morals.

    Yes, there is.

    LOL I can assure you all the women I have (*)(*)(*)(*)ed enjoyed it.

    LOL They all consented.

    Not at all.

    Many, yes.

    A woman who wants to be a prostitute, a whore, as a grown woman.

    Most Western societies glorify sex.

    When someone is not handicapped by a mental disorder or illness.
     
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    from the poll I would say most repubs and dems support sex before marriage... I kinda figured more republicans would be pushing for the marry for sex route

    course even they know Abstinence is not realistic for most people - at least not if they have a choice in the mater


    .
     
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    Ya know what's weird....all the countries that are more open about sex and less religious than the USA have a lower percentage of people with STDs and a lower teen pregnancy rate. Huh? Life is funny that way, isn't it?
     
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    Having consensual sex with a virgin is not rape. Its just really fun.

    LOL Well I'll keep having sex until he arrives. hahaha

    Total nonsense.

    Again, nonsense.

    If a woman wants an abortion, hell yeah she can have one.

    If that's how you describe it, yes I definitely say that is permissible and yes I recommend people have sex where they feel they want to with other consenting adults.

    How's that?

    Have you ever had sex? Seriously? Are you a virgin?

    Yes, there is. Its called freedom.

    What reality is that?

    How so?

    To logically thinking people.

    Most girls and guys dont much like their virginity, hence they lose it, usually in their teens.
    Yes, a mother can abort/murder her fetus if she so chooses.

    How so?
     
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    No...................I "want" women and children to be "free". The problem is security. Men are the SECURITY of society, the limits of freedom.

    Freedom only exists within a bubble of security, offering the illusion of choices. Actually, there are very few choices in life


    I want more "freedom". The problem is your LIBERAL perversion of freedom is different than its true form.

    Liberals cannot be free, while denying common sense at the same time

    Liberals want pleasure, without pain

    But there is always pain pulled from somewhere else, to PAY for your high, for YOUR drug addiction


    Then you believe kidnapping is impossible


    It is impossible to "guard" what you don't own

    Ownership is responsibility

    A father OWNS his daughter's virginity, therefore he is responsible for it and her


    No, you didn't


    If my children are girls, and I'm sure I'll have one, then she'll actually have a father who LOVES her, and not a liberal father who hates his own flesh and blood, and has no pride in himself. My deal is the better deal. I'd much rather have a father who actually CARES for his children, and does what is best for them. A father who doesn't protect his daughter's virginity may as well sell her off to a pimp, because that's where she's headed without his protection ANYWAY!!!!!!!!

    Liberal fathers, like your family no doubt, tend to produce sluts, prostitutes, and whores. Where do you think prostitutes come from???? You think they just magically appear out of nowhere??? No.....it takes a LIBERAL father to create a prostitute, a father who.....never TRULY cared for his daughter. Isn't that evil???? Isn't it EVIL for a father to raise his daughter, and then when she comes to the age of her sexuality, he looks the other way as the lustful boys around her, lie and confuse her, get her drunk and high on drugs at a party, then climb on top of her while she is half conscious, scared, and crying, taking her self worth for the rest of her life????

    What is a greater hell than this rape??? What is a greater hell than the SHAME of a slut, who has no TRUE CHRISTIAN FATHER to protect her from such a fate, or no power for justice????


    I expect no less from a liberal


    No, young girls never "own" themselves, which is why marriage is so important.

    Women are property, passed on from one HOLY FATHER to the next, without the rabble intervening the process with rape, perversion, and degeneracy.


    You want your daughters to be raped???????????

    Is that what you're trying to say to me, liberal???


    Because you don't respect women.

    And if you had daughters, GOD FORBID, then you wouldn't respect them either. You'd allow them to become prostitutes, because you have no pride in yourself ultimately, as a man or as a human being.


    Yet, here I am, out of the ashes

    Heretics like myself, mostly just keep silent in history, and don't speak up, except in extreme times

    Now, today, is an extreme time, as this sexual perversion, this disgusting religion of liberalism, is preparing to consume everything and everyone


    Daughters are the PROPERTY of their fathers

    Sons are the PROPERTY of their mothers

    CHILDREN are the PROPERTY of their PARENTS


    Yes, that is called "kidnapping"


    If selling your daughter to a pimp is "loving" her, then yes, liberal fathers do "love" their daughters, by that explicit meaning


    You're telling me that a liberal's daughter could "choose" to wait to marriage until she has sex and consumates the marraige vow???

    THEN SHE'S NOT A LIBERAL!!!!!!!!!!!! DUH!


    Guardianship and custody is ownership.

    You are just using liberal codewords to feel better about yourself. You liberals like to pretend slavery doesn't exist, when it's obvious that children are slaves to their parents.

    Are you claiming that children have the power to disobey their parents????????? Are you claiming that an infant of 6 months has the power to crawl or run away from its mother's OWNERSHIP????? You believe a young infant can escape this "custody" you speak of?????

    No, it is not until much later in life that any child can "escape" the ownership of a parent. But this type of knowledge goes beyond a soulless liberal. What would you know about it???


    Your religion of liberalism is the joke


    Custody and guardianship are just codewords for OWNERSHIP.

    Let's say that you're working for an employer, and your boss tells you to "guard this box". Now, YOU will claim that you don't "own" the box. But who does???? Does your boss own it? Do you own it? The thing is, ownership is about responsibility. Your boss PASSED this responsibility on to you. He passed this OWNERSHIP on to you. And you OWN the box, for a brief time.

    You can only guard what you own. Kidnapping is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE without ownership.


    The contradiction is when you said nobody owns their child, except a mother.

    You are making an exception. But, you are being dishonest. Why can't a father also own his child? HE CAN AND HE DOES

    In fact, a father has more ownership over his children than a mother does, because a father is ultimately responsible for his family. A mother is not ultimately responsible for her family. If a woman raises disgusting, hateful, evil, criminals, then people will forgive her of her stupidity and ignorance. This is not true for men. If a MAN raises disgusting, hateful, evil, criminals, then people will send him to prison quicker, plus GOD comes down hard on these types of men.


    So now you're denying that pimps and prostitutes exist?????????????

    So now you're denying that a father has "custody" or "guardianship" over his own daughter?????????

    See how quickly you contradict yourself?????????????????


    I mean, you're wrong and you're going to realize this soon
     
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    Yes, and I have SINNED

    I've already admitted this before, why do you care?


    Sexual perversion is "freedom"????????????

    To a liberal, yes, it is

    Then I don't want it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    You don't even know what "Christian" means, do you?

    Then say what a Christian is, if YOU KNOW (but everybody knows you don't)


    The liberal dream is "free sex" for all, AND, free abortions too


    You should respect my interests then


    No, God granted MAN FREE WILL. If atheists want to squander this free will, and give in to the lies of SATAN, then that is their CHOICE.

    Women and children do not necessarily have free will. They are closer to animals, closer to instinctual and reflexive behaviors. Women and children cannot reason. It is only within the faculty and ability of men. That is why men are closest to GOD out of all living beings on Earth.


    Happy about abortions???????
     
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    Wrong. The law is security. Men/women do not own any other men/women without their consent.

    I disagree.

    No freedom is the ability to pursue whatever interest you have on the proviso you do not effect the ability of others to do the same.

    Well not always, no. You dont need pain to have pleasure.

    No. What makes you ask that?

    Wrong.

    Wrong. Only the daughter owns her virginity and can she can dispose of it as she chooses. Same applies for boys.

    I really hope you never have kids.

    Plenty of hos are religious mate, if that's your question. It isnt evil for a woman to pursue her interests, let alone have sex.

    Hell doesnt exist.

    So backward and crazy. No, no one owns woman.

    Define rape. If they want to have sex, of course I'll let them.

    You're the only liberal here mate.

    Have you ever had sex?

    Are you a virgin?

    Nonsense.

    No, it isnt.

    Ok.

    If she wants, of course, yes.

    Nonsense, of course she's a liberal.

    Nope.

    No, they are not the same. Look them up in a dictionary.

    Yes.

    Parents do not own infants, they have custody.

    The government can take children from the custody of parents and put them in state care if parents are abusive.

    Liberalism isnt as much of a joke as God is. LOL

    No, they are not.

    No he still owns the box.

    Wrong.

    Nope. mothers own the fetus in their body. No one ones the born child.

    Wrong. A woman can abort regardless of the father's wishes.

    You're a virgin, arent you?
     
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    See. No one can avoid what they are naturally designed to do. You have no place whining about others when you are the very same "rapist" you decry!

    But you are a liberal - you've had sex.

    Yes, I do.

    Christan: one who follows the tenants and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.

    Correct. Seems you've already had some of the former.

    Sure, but not if you plan to violate the interests of others.

    Backward medieval nonsense.

    What do you mean?
     
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    Lulz. Of course, what you meant to say is that Christians are future tenants of mansions in the sky with Jesus.
     
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