Do you defend starvation as a weapon in Gaza?

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  1. AFM

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    Read the Hamas charter. That's all you seriously need to know.

    The only hope for peace and security and economic prosperity for the Gazan people is for Israel to complete the eradication of Hamas from the Gaza Strip.
     
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    Don't you mean the complete eradication of Gazans and then say that Hamas are responsible for those deaths?
     
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    No.
     
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    How are you going up ensure that all Hamas are dead?
     
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    That isn't going to happen. Hamas is going to be there no matter how many Israel kills and the hate that spawned it will sustain it.
     
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    I will leave that to the IDF.
     
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    Sure. Just like ISIS and Al Q and the KKK are still there.
     
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    How will they ensure that all Hamas are dead?
     
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    See #1057.
     
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    Yes, like that.
     
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    What, you are going to change the group name from Hamas to something else and claim Hamas no longer exists and then continue blowing up civilians because of the presence of this new group?
     
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    Which means they exist but only as a curiosity.
     
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    ????
     
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    Well, you know what that does to cats.
     
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    Those are two different things. Getting an accurate count of the dead is not the same as noticing Israel is dropping bombs on starving civilians and occasionally shooting people around aid distribution centers.
    The US is part of the problem here.

    We have a very long history of supporting Israel in MAJOR ways. AIPAC is strong here.

    This can NOT continue in the same way. The USA can NOT hold to it's stated principles while helping to implement genocide.

    Thus we have major demonstrations in opposition to that slaughter as well as demonstration oriented to HELPING that slaughter.

    It's hard to correct the course of our nation in a rapid manner.

    The costs to the US are high and growing. Far from being a needed example of democracy interested in the law in that region, Israel has made itself a beacon of seething hate and self aggrandizement to all who surround it.

    This can not be what the USA stands for.
     
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    Which charter. Cite the charter you are talking about.

    I've asked that repeatedly, and you still have not answered.

    I have showed you Netanyahu's Likud party charter - stating from the river to the sea.
     
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    The USA stands for the right and obligation of democratic nations to defend themselves against radical Islamic terrorism.
     
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    I have answered multiple times. I have provided quotes multiple times.
     
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    Genocide is not a defensive measure.

    The stealing of land in West Bank is not a defensive measure.

    Overall, what we are seeing is NOT defensive. It is the continuation of the war Israel has been waging for decades in pursuit of the goals stated in the Likud charter.
     
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    You have never cited it.
     
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    From the river to the sea —- Palestine will be free is a slogan calling for the destruction of Israel. That slogan explicitly eliminates any support for a two state solution from muslim Arabs.
     
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    There are lots of slogans.

    You claimed there was a document. Please cite.
     
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    Genocide is the goal of Hamas. Hamas has attacked Israel continuously from Gaza since 2007. Israel is defending itself from the genocidal attacks from Hamas.

    Israel provides military security in the West Bank since Israel pushed the Jordanian army across the river in the 1967 six day war. Israel has established a secure border at the river. The PA provides governance in the West Bank at the pleasure of Israel. Israel is not stealing land in the West Bank. Arab civilians in the West Bank benefit from the security supplied by Israel. If Israel left the West Bank Hezbollah would turn the West Bank into a hell hole as Hamas has done to Gaza.
     
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    If you have a point to make then do so.
     
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    You can't cite your claims about the intent of Palestinians.

    Plus, they don't make sense.

    Palestinians want the war to end.
     

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