Do you think a 15 year-old girl should be able to get married?

so lets get this hypocrisy straight

you think a person should wait to get married until their 18 because that's when their "adults" but you don't think a 40 year ADULT and 18 year old ADULT should get married. Why isn't she an adult isn't that your whole point? Maybe we should setup a special court and you can determine who can be in a relationship and who cant based on the yuckiness factor? just because you dont want your daughter in that kind of marriage doesn't mean you get to outlaw it, many people believe interracial marriage is wrong should we also outlaw that? because it used to be illegal

the fact is the government shouldn't be regulating marriage, either by denying who can get married, or supporting "appropriate marriages" with tax breaks, immigration laws, marriage licenses etc.

you can outlaw having sex with children but marriage is none of your business, what if my religion says that everyone should be in an arranged marriage before they turn 1 years old? Do you think that should be illegal as well? and why?

 

I don't believe I ever said this guy's "marriage" was illegal or that I should be the judge or God to outlaw it.

Obviously 18 is the magic number, so it's legal. My latter posts in this thread were commenting on Mr. 40+ who is supposedly in love with an 18 year old. And yes you describe it very well.....the yuckiness factor. If I see a middle aged or old man out on the street holding hands or displaying affection with what looks like a teenager, even if she's 18, I'm sure as hell not impressed or jealous.

But to the OP.....now we're going to extend backwards that age of consent to 15? With parental consent? Do some reading. Developmental psychologists clearly state these young people are not ready. Education and economic data clearly show they're not ready. I'm against it. Nothing hypocritical about it.

It's my opinion. You have the right to your own opinion.

 

funny how my detractors claim to be conservatives but act like Move on Org members. Ad hominem attacks, libelling me as a liar etc etc .

Has my GF left high schol -yes two years ago. I said she was intelligent. She is in her second year of college. Majoring in Dramatic arts.

So anyway. My Im so conservative wants me not to Date the woman I love because he finds it Yucky. How authoritarian can you get.

When my wife died 3 years ago (she was my age) I found my self beseiged by her divorcee friends just weeks after the funeral frankly looking for someone who shell out for them and their kids. WTF should I take on someone else failed marriage and pay for their brats who will tell me "you arent my dad' while they live out of my wallet.

or I can go for the 30 something professional who wants me to put my life on hold for their career and give me their feminist bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

or my beautiful actress teen. Clever, inquisitive, wants to learn everything she can. Sugar Daddy? She sure costs less than a woman my age would cost.

Hell she wants to go to a theme park with her best friends (another couple from College) for her birthday -I would rather take her than pay for a new wife's kids to ruin my day.

Heres one I took on Saturday its her as Luna Bear from League of Legends

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I can't see your attachment, but this is not proof of anything. <Mod Edit: Off-topic>

 

There's nothing wrong (legally) with an 18-year-old marrying or having sex. However, that doesn't make it any less disgusting that a 40-something-year-old man seeks out the attentions of teenagers!!! It is despicable, and more than likely means that particular person is socially inept or extremely immature.

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Ah yes, so you want to take but you don't want to give anything in return? Besides, most women's (who are YOUR age) children are pretty much grown. In fact, the child you are dating is young enough to be YOUR daughter.

 

I'm an adult woman who is not a conservative, and I find you yucky.

 

The attachment wasdnt for you...

But I see you continue your repulisve slanders...nasty peice of work arent you.

Give nothing in return? Task? wtf are you talking about? You think as a man I should just be paying out? Obviously due to our wealth differences I pay for all our dating, holidays etc but why the (*)(*)(*)(*)l should I pay for some divorcees Kids?

Whjy would an 18 year old date me? Because she is intelligent and creative and thinks I am too. You have no idea what I look like other than I am 6 foot tall blond and blue eyed. She is clearly a lot more mature than you are with your nasty slanders

You are just another hag who is upset because you are outclassed by your juniors. Its (*)(*)(*)(*) all to do with you in any case.

 

She is young enough to be my daughter... and so what? The despicable one is you. Stating that I steal pictures from girls FB accounts. Socially inept- (*)(*)(*)(*)en hilarious. Immature? Why because I find this girl incredibly attractive?

 

The attachment isn't working, Einstein. That means it doesn't work for ANYONE. Lol. You claimed you could provide proof, and you have yet to do so. Of course you are probably just a lonely old selfish man who dreams that some beautiful young girl would be interested in him. Eighteen year old girls do NOT find 40-year-old men physically attractive.

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You probably do. Besides, your other picture that you posted wasn't even a picture. It was a drawing/computer animation. Really . . . who do you think you're fooling here? I can post a picture of Brad Pitt and say that he's my boyfriend. Doesn't mean he is though. Lol!

 

Oh, and BTW, I am a very attractive young woman. You're the 40-year-old hag trying to get some from teenaged girls. You even admitted that it's because they have "lowered expectations." This means that you are not capable of an adult give-and-take relationship where both partners are equals. That is why you are attracted to children. Doesn't take much to impress children, after all.

I have no idea what you're talking about with "task." Never did I say the word "task."

 

Hey look!! Here's a picture of my "boyfriend."

 

Okay, maybe I've been a bit hard on Sab (whatever his name is) . . . maybe that's a difference between men and women. Personally, I cannot ever IMAGINE dating a child!!! I would feel ridiculous, #1. Number 2, I would have absolutely nothing in common with a person who is half my age. Number three, I like to have meaningful relationships, and a "connection" of some sort is much important to me than a person's outward physical appearances (to an extent, of course - LOL).

So Mr. Sab, I apologize for being kind of witchy towards you, but it is just my gut reaction to a person who is dating, what is basically a child. I mean, just thinking about dating one of my son's friends makes me crack up! Lol! Hanging out with his friends, etc. To me, that is ridiculous, AND I would feel like the old person trying to relive my youth or something.

 

Well, I just looked at Mr. Sab's profile page, and he says his interests are "ladies' rude parts." Oh no, that's not immature, is it?

 

difference between men and women? You mean women are nasty? Glad my wife wasnt and nor is my GF

Again an 18 year old isnt a child and women normally prefer males older than themselves.

why do you need to be the same age as someone to have a connection. I have a lot of experience in film and I enjoy essentially educating my gf about the great films of yesteryear that she might not have been shown before. Her grades at College are certainly helped by my input. We discuss film and acting and fantasy and sci-fi culture.

She likes the fact that I dont pick fights, have a car that constantly breaks down, have hang ups about my parents, need to make stupid jokes about women ro a myriad of other things guys of her age do. In return I love that she wants to learn as much as possible from me...also that she is incredibly attractive.

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Its called self deprecative humour.. I realise irony is often lost on Americans

 

how very stupid. I gove you two photographs and that are clearly photographs and you give a silly drawing. Still making the nasty claim that I am inventing this or stealing photos?

Look I happen to have a very deep love for my GF. I was married 15 years before my wife passed and then 2 years in utter loneliness and now have someone to love and care for again. Someone who needs it as much as I need to give it. If that is too much for you I feel sorry for you.

 

Sorry about your wife, but that is besides the point and is completely irrelevant. Yes, you ARE dating a child. You may not want to admit that, but that is exactly what you are doing. Even your description is that of a child, throwing temper tantrums, demanding, etc. Those were your own words.

Oh funny, you say she likes that you don't make stupid jokes about women, when you have one in your profile page. Lol!

So you don't "love" her. You like the fact that you are an authoritative figure to her and that she is attractive.

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Nope, you haven't shown any photos. One was a very tiny, what looked to be computer animated photograph. The other link is broken.

Sorry, I think it's wrong for 40-something-year-olds to date teenagers, for ANY reason. I am entitled to my opinion. What if it was YOUR teen daughter dating a man in his 40s? Then how would you feel? You'd probably want to wring his neck.

 

BTW, that was a joke. You know, ha-ha, funny. Sorry about your troubles, but that still doesn't make what you are doing right in any way.

 

I've noticed that Mr. Sab only replies to my posts after I've logged off. Maybe it's a coincidence or maybe he is actually afraid of adult women.

 

Hey Sab, can we get something straight? For the 4th or 5th time now, I'm not wanting to change the law nor did I ever say I don't want you to date this girl or anything of the sort. You have a bad habit of putting words in other people's mouths. I simply stated my opinion of how I personally would view you two love birds if I saw you out in public together, showing affection for one another. After all, if you weren't displaying that kind of affection, the normal conclusion would be that you are Daddy and she's your daughter.

Next point.....poster "Taypayer" first threw the term "yucky" out there to describe your relationship, not me. I simply happened to repeat it because I thought it was accurate and extremely funny.

In addition, I never called you a liar, although the pic you shared, as Chris says, doesn't even look like a photo. It almost looks like a painting. And for the record, speaking of Chris, if the photo in her profile is real, I find her quite attractive, much more than the little girl in your painting. But that's just me.....I'm attracted to women, not girls.

Finally, I would be remiss if I didn't point out your total lack of class. Calling Chris an old hag, or calling any woman anything derogatory because you simply can't control your temper, is sad. If I was that ticked off at a woman, I'd simply walk away before attempting a lame attempt at insulting her.

 

Lol! Thanks Brian. The picture is really me, and I just changed it recently. Anyway, thanks but I've been called MUCH worse on other boards. I was also kind of mean to Sab. I do feel sorry about his predicament with his wife, but I don't think that means it's okay to date teenagers. Eighteen is legal, but that doesn't mean older men should be taking advantage of young girls. I feel that, even if these girls are more mature than most others in their age group, that does not mean they are emotionally or mentally mature, and fro the way he described this young woman, she sounds quite immature.

Now, not that there is anything wrong with being immature. I'm a bit immature myself (obviously), but I'm also not still a teenager. Also, I don't understand how a person could date a person who is young enough to be his or her child. To me, that is ridiculous, but I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions, even if I think they are wrong.

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PS . . . I agree that the photo did not look real.

 

I ceratinly do Love my Girl friend. Very very much

ANimated? an animated photograph is a film not a still image

I dont have an 18 or 19 year old daughter. I couldnt say.

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You are sad. You make unmpleasant personal atacks because someone doesnt stick with your lifestyle. You lie about the Photo. I dont care what you would do. You are hardly a role model

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GHow do I 'take advantage' of my GF?

Its a voluntary arrangement on both sides ffs

 

nope the OP didn't say anything about age of consent, the age of consent in the USA is 15 years old, in some states it goes up to 18 but it's 15 years old federally. now if you want to have a conversation about age of consent laws in america start another thread this one is about whether 15 year olds can get married which they can, it's not about lowering age of consent laws, if anything you would have to raise them to 18 not lower them to 15

my point is the government shouldnt have any marriage laws whatsoever, supporting one kind of marriage is a violation of freedom of religion, if you want to have an age of consent conversation start another thread i wont participate in it because i havent the faintest education on developmental psychology and i dont even have the vaguest clue as to why the planet has decided 18 is the magic number, raise it to 28 for all I care. All I'm saying is the government has no right to regulate any religous ceremony like marriage, at all

 

Well, you would be WRONG. Perhaps you should do some research before you make "matter-of-fact" statements which are wrong . . . the only time the age of consent for marriage is lower than 18 is when there is special permission by a judge, and that is VERY rare. A judge would usually only agree to that with parental permission and if there are some other extenuating circumstances, like pregnancy, and if the person is so many years older than that teen, they are charged with a SEX CRIME.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States

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I said "computer animated." That is animation created by a computer. If you did have an 18-year-old daughter, would you want her dating some old man?

You think it's voluntary, but that little girl doesn't really know what the hell she's doing.

So, you "love" her? Going to marry her someday?

Don't you think you're quite selfish? This little girl is throwing away the best part of her life to spend it with some old man? She could be dating a guy around her own age who would marry her, and then she could have a family of her own.

I've had a couple of younger guys try to pursue me before, and I wouldn't have anything to do with it, because these guys wanted families and children, and I've already done that and that is not something that I want out of my life now, so I decided I wouldn't be selfish and therefore did not date them. They should be dating girls around their own ages who are looking for the same things out of life.

 

I'm not sad.....I'm happy! In fact, I'm a downright jolly soul!

Where have I attacked you? You were the one who insisted everybody here who has been a critic of you is jealous because you have to beat off all the young babes with a stick.

If you want to have that relationship.....have at it. It's legal and I really could care less. I'm simply saying when I see middle aged and old guys out there with young chicks, my first reaction isn't "wow, he's really got it going". My reaction is to feel sorry for the guy because the chick is likely using him, and going to dump him at some point in the future.

How is my opinion and viewpoint, a personal attack? Some of the things you've thrown out there, especially aimed at Chris, are more of a personal attack.

 

It doesn't seem the only choices should be yes or no. Marriage by or at age 15 used to be common and society survived just fine. There are questions such as maturity, situation and also whether there is a child/pregnancy involved. Also, a marriage license is just a piece of paper in the sense what is the difference in real terms between if she lives with a guy like husband and wife whether there is a license? Possibly in some states that marriage license is necessary or the guy risks a sexual assault charge against him.

So my answer is generally no, but sometimes yes.