does mandatory federal registration of privately owned firearms

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Does mandatory firearms registration benefit legal gun owners

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  1. Galileo

    Galileo Well-Known Member

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    I think they are paranoid about gun registration leading to gun confiscation. In fact, in D.C. it led to the opposite result: handguns that were registered were not confiscated.
     
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  2. Rucker61

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    Yet in the UK, Japan, and Canada, three countries that the gun control advocates constantly praise for "common sense" laws, registration was essential for firearm confiscations. New Zealand complained about how their lack of registration impeded confiscation efforts.
     
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  3. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    don't you realize how silly that argument is as a support for registration. So what happened if they changed the law to ban all handguns?
     
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  4. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    it's completely on topic-I created this thread
     
  5. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah but the threads really about your concern about having your guns registered.

    Do you think it is necessary for lawful drivers to register their cars?
     
  6. Chickpea

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    Good question. Is it necessary?
     
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    Your question is based on a nonsensical reality.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    How about you stick to the topic?
     
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    The fact the "We're coming for your guns!!!!" crowd haven't yet come for our guns is no way means they don't plan to.
    Fact is, they know they cannot come for our guns because they do not have any idea who have them, and which guns they have.
    Registration solves that problem.
     
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  10. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that's for revenue purposes. why does every anti gun group in america and tons of anti American gun rights gadflies in foreign countries want us to register our firearms? is it a "misery craves company" proclivity or is there something else going on?
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Because then they know it's a registered firearm and not an unregistered one.

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    Why do we still have straw purchases? Those have de facto registration.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    There we go...
     
  14. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    why do foreigners care?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Am I missing something or is it that his answer absolutely has nothing to do with answering my question. Why would foreigners care if a gun is registered?
     
  16. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why do you care what foreigners think?

    (It looks like you have no viable reply).
     
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    Are there any benefits? There are pros and cons to almost everything. I suppose it would make it easier to return lost or stolen firearms to their rightful owner. It could also be useful in crime investigations, if you know where the gun originated from.
     
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    Ah, that must be why firearms owners are clamoring for gun registration.
    How would that be useful to solving a crime?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't-I am amused at the reasons what causes this thought.
     
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    that would assume an owner was unaware that his firearm was stolen. But that is not usual occurrence among legal owners. Right now, the proper procedure is to report a firearm stolen as soon as you are aware of it-and every "benefit" from registration" occurs without any of the negative possibilities
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    well gun banners want to make you strictly liable so that would be the crime they would say can be solved by registration.
     
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    You asked if there are any benefits, and that's that I could think of. A stolen or lost gun could be returned its rightful owner if the serial number is associated with a person, like a car VIN is associated to the owner. This kind of registry would not have to be mandatory, but voluntary.

    They are? I didn't know that, but if you say so, then it must be so. The OP asked a question, and I answered. You......not so much.

    Ehhhh.....what?

    Why are you trolling your own thread? Just ask the mods to close it if you don't want it discussed.
     
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  23. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am explaining why sensible gun owners oppose mandatory registration and the only benefit that can come from it is easily obtained by reporting a stolen gun after it is stolen. But anti gunners -and this board is full of posts that support my assertion-want strict liability offenses
     
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    Ok. For a while I thought you wanted to discuss the question you posed in your OP, but I guess that was never the intent.
     
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    I have yet to see many of those who want registration tell us why it benefits us. most of them pretend it doesn't hurt gun owners or it helps the government-neither of which is relevant. But explaining why registration sucks for gun owners is obviously a relevant part of this discussion. and I also explained that reporting a stolen gun gains you all the "benefits" of having it registered without any of the potential problems.
     
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