Does Tony Abbott have a brain injury?

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  1. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Guilty by association when it suits his agenda, and no guilty by association when it suits his agenda.

    How does he expect anyone to take him serious, when he always covers his comments with a psychological schism to prove himself right. :deadhorse:
     
  2. Adultmale

    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    DV, what the hell are you talking about???
     
  3. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah man, I started replying to this post then it became a whole blueprint for a new Australian Republic lol. Decided to make another thread.
     
  4. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Well while everybody is associating everything to these people, it must mean Gillard is a swindling fraudster with her association to Thompson and the union slush funds. Who needs evidence? Guess we can just hang them all by association and be done with them.
     
  5. Bowerbird

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    Truth is we do not have much of an idea of what an Abbott government would look like

     
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    slipperyfish Well-Known Member

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    More organised and unified the the current I would expect !
     
  7. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    But it this thread apparently we do not need the truth. Association is the best method,


    But to your point, True we do not have much detail as to the government make up of Abbott, and the real question is could it be worse? Privatising utilities and much government responsibility is concerning, but while governments hands are tied with huge bureaucratic costs to do anything something needs to be done to remove the wasted expense of bureaucracy. Everybody complained when Newman shed several thousand bureaucrats and complained about how services are going to be destroyed.

    I have had several dealings with government departments of late and have become extremely disappointed that they strive to do nothing. Several times when questioned about a particular activity they were to undertake and did not, I was told that it was somebody else’s job OR that I should have made sure they did the job. I am sorry to say these people are paid considerable amount and yet constantly they do not do the job they are paid for.

    Is this an excuse to privatise? No, but what else is there? Employ more public servants to insure others do their job? Who then is going to insure the public servants you employ for that purpose is going to their job?

    There is much to consider, but one thing is for sure, while you have a party that has no idea what they are doing or how to get something done. You’re not going to get anything done at all.
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    Is Telstra better for privatisation?
     
  9. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Was Qantas and the Commonwealth bank better for privatisation?
     
  10. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    No, because now they have to earn the money they spend. However, is the country better off since the privatisation of Telstra?

    Rail has been privatised for several years, has it been a dead loss? After all as government industry is was a major drain, but the private sector seems to make money from it and yet the prices have not gone through the roof.

    However, the fact that you would rather remain on a ship with the great hole in it has little to the point you are trying to get to. To support the ALP government is traditionally to support the growth of bureaucracy, which in turn reduces the effect of any spending. Hospitals, schools, etc, etc are slowly collapsing with the weight of the bureaucratic (you know public servant that does nothing). Do you suggest that the public continue to fund wasteful government departments to administer funding to these areas?

    The ALP cannot reduce the bureaucracy to levels needed to sustain government services due entirely to the fact it is against the base principles of the party and their base support the unions.

    So what is it you suggest? Print more money to fund your ailing services thus devaluing the currency to a point where Russia would laugh at you? How about cutting spending to everything else such as welfare so as to insure enough funding to continue? OR maybe the most popular thing the ALP seem to like at present, more taxes?

    Something needs doing now, and the ALP has clearly demonstrated it has not got one idea what to do. You can complain about privatising these things all you like, but unless you have a real alternative, then it Is simply whinging. Money is not infinite and the government is clearly running out. The Coalition is demonstrating that it clearly understands that there is no secret stash of cash to throw about and are providing alternatives. Since the sale of many of the money spinners, the government has not many alternatives to work with.
     
  11. gobsmacked

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    The only photo i've seen shows Abbott attacking someones fist with his face? Perhaps his boxing talent is as prodigious as his political talent. Nonexistent except in the minds of his mentors.
     
  12. All Black

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    We know exactly what an Abbott government would look like.

    It would do what most conservative governments do, cut taxes for the wealthy, privatise everything that moves, declare war on the unions and demonise the poor and unemployed.

    Regarding rail privatisation, in NZ the rail system was sold to a consortium of Toll and Kiwi millionaires.

    The new owners ignored maintenance to the extent that a Labour government had to buy the system back before it collapsed. Consortium members pocketed huge profits and strolled away, whistling happily.
     
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    Conservative governments have done nothing for our country since maybe Menzies! We will be in trouble under conservative rule in trying times!
     
  14. aussiefree2ride

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    This entire thread is an indication of the mentality of people without one. Mentality, that is.

    Let the rase to the mummy button begin ------ soooooooooooks.
     
  15. All Black

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    What an intelligent post. Insightful, cutting, directly to the point. Mature, wise and superbly worded. There is nothing left to say.
     
  16. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    You got that right. You are improving.
     
  17. lizarddust

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    A typical bogan view.
     

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