Electric Vehicle with 1300 Mile Range

Here is a hot-off-the-press latest development. Talent New Energy just unveiled a solid state battery with unprecedented energy density - 720 WHrs/Kg. That power will provide enough range for 2000 Kilometers (over 1300 miles)!!! More than likely people won't want that much mileage, and will settle for less battery range, at a lesser price. Imagine that - EVs are now going to start to have TOO MUCH RANGE!

This may be enough energy density to power a plane on a trans-oceanic journey.

https://cnevpost.com/2024/04/03/talent-unveils-battery-cell-ultra-high-energy-density/

Talent's all-solid-state battery has twice the energy density of WeLion's semi-solid-state battery, meaning it is expected to give EVs a range of around 2,000 kilometers if it can be mass-produced.
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In the company's first-generation semi-solid-state batteries energy density maxed out at 400 Wh/kg, and second-generation quasi-solid-state batteries reached energy densities of 400 Wh/kg to 500 Wh/kg, according to one of its press releases last year.

These first- and second-generation batteries still have liquid electrolytes, and the third-generation all-solid-state batteries will no longer contain liquid electrolytes, Talent said in July 2023.

 

We shall see.
The climateers don't want EV's anyway.
Extinction Rebellion Attacks an Electric Vehicle at the New York Auto Show
Eric Worrall
There is no path to appeasement – nothing is ever green enough for climate fanatics. . . .

 

I read recently that Tesla was trying to dry apply the coating on the cathodes and anodes of their batteries. If you read the Talent New Energy article, it talks about this with the "Generations". Evidently they have figured out a way.

 

Extinction Rebellion will trash it anyway.

 

There are skeptics in China too.
China's 'battery king' dismisses solid-state EV ...

Financial Times
https://www.ft.com › Asia-Pacific › Automobiles › China

Mar 26, 2024 — The vaunted solid-state battery for electric cars is still years away from commercialisation with “a lot of showstoppers” blocking its ...

 

Site has a pay wall. As for the single sentence - I'm sure it won't be easy. As mentioned, Tesla has also been working on this technology, in a joint effort with Toyota. Where there is a will, there is a way. And with the big money at stake, there is a lot of will.

https://www.torquenews.com/8113/tes...state-revolution-ev-batteries#google_vignette

 

not possible without making the car weigh 4 times as much and take four times as long to charge.

I don't understand why people believe this horse ****. Learning how batteries work isn't that complicated.

It wouldn't be able to get off the ground.

did you see China's magical nuclear battery that could power your devices for life?



It's a scam. Learn how batteries work. It's ****ing simple.

An electrolyte that is sold would be more resistant to the flow of electrons because it'll take longer and more energy to warm up.

Good Lord there is no reason for people to be this illiterate on how batteries work. You've never just been curious?

 

well it's a Chinese start up so the chances that it's a complete scam is very likely. China rips everything off. They aren't innovators so chances are very likely this is either a total scam or a partial scam

I think the whacko climate cult is an effort by the government to make it illegal to protest.

It's possible that people are that stupid but it's not possible people that stupid organize in their own.

 

There is far more of a chance that I can get a cold four pack of tall boys and dust off my recumbent bicycle and do the 12 miles around the block three times that I used to do as recently as 6 months ago.

When you work nights like I do you have unusual hours off


And I'm not trying to take this topic off of subject I'm just saying that I have more faith in my own ability to pedal my own fat ass 12 miles around the block then some battery operated thing.

And if I didn't want to do that I would just get my Kawasaki KLX 230 dirt bike out of the shed.
Just another picture to remind you all that gas four strokes are King. It's a dirt road is maintained well enough I can go close to 50 miles an hour and easily 30 mph the whole way

Try that on some electric weenie bike

This road goes about 8 mi at least in n each direction, your electric bike might have made it out to the end but it wouldn't have made it back to the van like mine did.... Then used more gasoline to get me and my motorcycle back to my house about 20 miles away....

In gasoline I trust. Electric power is much more likely to leave you pulling that bike back out of the back of the van to get home on plan B
Gasoline is so much better and energy packed versus a battery powered vehicle.

It's almost like comparing compressed air to gunpowder.

And you know that I know that you know that...

 

• Arguing the energy density weight ratio... Doesn't take into account that either electric or gas can fail from random problems.

So there is that devil in the details.


I just know that I will always prefer refined dinosaur bits from deep within the Earth to propel my ass down the road

Will I eschew electric power forever ?... Only as long as it sucks hind tit to gasoline power.

Show me an electric vehicle that can outdo a gas power for less money and then you might have a new convert.

 

That does seem to be the rub doesn't it?

Show me an EV that doesn't suck and you won't need to pay me to buy it. As simple as that.

 

<$10K in China. Beautiful car with many more features than most ICEs. And better safety ratings.

 

My background is Electrical Engineering. If you would have told me, 20 years ago, that a battery-powered-car could travel 300 miles on a single charge, I would have said "No Way". Incredible changes are happening every day in this industry - lighter, more energy density, more efficiency, better chemistry, better manufacturing.

I'll continue to report the developments, and you can continue to live in the 1990s.

 

then why don't you know how our battery works. If you're going to have some sort of magical energy density you have to have a magical element that is both solid and more willing to give up an electron than lithium and that won't corrode.

how do you get more energy density explain tell me the materials used and the properties of these materials being used? If you don't know you don't know and if you don't know I'm sorry to tell you the people that are making this claim are so full of **** they are about to pop like a giant **** zit.

You didn't report a development you reported some Chinese company cooking its books and lying to you.

If I wrote an article that I invented a battery that weighs less than a roll of pennies and could power Jets to fly to approximate centauri would you believe me?

I don't understand the religion behind these electric cars to where you believe things that are not possible.

 

Your hate for EVs is noted. Don't buy one. Many of us like to live more cutting-edge, and buy a smart phone instead of a flip-top phone.

 

so in order to not hate EVS I have to believe every piece of absolute bullshit that I read on the internet about them?

Why do you need to project this on to me I'm just explaining to you how a battery works you say you have a background in electrical engineering this shouldn't need to be explained to you.

buy an electric car to pretend like you're on The cutting edge of something or because you enjoy them or like the way they look whatever.

I'm just telling you there is no battery in existence that you're going to get 1,300 miles of range out of without the car weighing about 10,000 pounds. And a recharge taking probably the better part of a week.

This has nothing to do with hatred of electric cars it's just understanding how batteries work.

 

You can buy a Chinese bike that is the equivalent of my $5,000 Kawasaki for $2,000 and there's a reason for it.... Because it's junk and it sucks

I don't have any reason to believe their cars would be any better. Show me a reliable little Chinese 4-cylinder and I might be interested

 

Then stop trying to force us to buy one.

Live your "cutting edge" life on your own dime.

 

Ev's are great for folks that never drive far. I'm retired and live in Texas. I have relatives in New York and California that I love to visit. SUPERWIFE and I love the long drives we routinely take... varying the route as a mini-excursion.
Tough with an EV.

EV's are great if you stay local though, I guess.

 

Of course they are. Around here where people commute into DC, they're reasonably popular. Highly paid suburban folks can afford to leave their SUV at home and take advantage of HOV lane restrictions and subsidies and drive their EV down into Georgetown for work.

Everything else gets done in the SUV.

Meanwhile the contractors who remodel their houses and keep their lights on all drive F350s with diesels. Because driving an EV would be stupid.

That's the knock against EVs. They're maybe a 4-6% share naturally. Messing with that is inviting disaster.

 

Poor you! People FORCING you to buy an EV. Shameful.

 

I'm not worried. June's coming.

 

Extra storage capacity is great. My primary interest in solid state is the potential for a battery that never wears out and stops taking a full charge. Do we know the expected lifespan (how many recharges) these batteries are sposed to be good for?

 

Don't know. Perhaps research is warranted. I believe it was that technology referenced, when Ian Musk, talked about a One-Million-Mile-Battery.