Everything they can do to cheat.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump’s Allies Ramp Up Campaign Targeting Voter Rolls

    A network of right-wing activists and allies of Donald J. Trump is quietly challenging thousands of voter registrations in critical presidential battleground states, an all-but-unnoticed effort that could have an impact in a close or contentious election.

    Calling themselves election investigators, the activists have pressed local officials in Michigan, Nevada and Georgia to drop voters from the rolls en masse. They have at times targeted Democratic areas, relying on new data programs and novel legal theories to justify their push.

    In one Michigan town, more than 100 voters were removed after an activist lobbied officials, citing an obscure state law from the 1950s. In the Detroit suburb of Waterford, a clerk removed 1,000 people from the rolls in response to a similar request. The ousted voters included an active-duty Air Force officer who was wrongly removed and later reinstated.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/03/...s-ramp-up-campaign-targeting-voter-rolls.html

    We've seen this sort of thing before. Like the voter roll purges in GA and FL. The latter effort having changed the outcome of the 2000 prez election. The former all but ensuring Kemp, who had control over the purges as the Sec. of State, would beat Stacey Abrams in the governor's race.

    Thank you for providing information about the voter registration challenges processed recently by Waterford Township. Based on the information you provided and a review of QVF data, it appears that the majority of the voter registrations involved will need to be restored to their prior status.
    https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/835e78003b2b4524/bd3cc40c-full.pdf

    All it takes is willing, corrupt, public officials who are part of the cult. Vigilance will be essential to keep their success in cheating to a minimum.
     
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    This is just another conspiracy theory.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Given that you have been consistently wrong about the breadth and depth of Trump's threat to the country I'm going to give your reply all the consideration it deserves.
     
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    This isn't cheating.
     
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    Trump is too narrow and shallow to have much breadth or depth.
     
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    Sound like a good idea to me.
    That is not a particularly unusual occurrence. Military personnel move around and they sometimes have the option of voting in their home state or in their duty location depending on whether they own property in their duty station. The key is that he was reinstated.
     
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    It's become so acceptable in this R Party......sad. When it comes to representing the entire country, zero sum politics is harmful when they have to cheat and steal to deny the entire country.
     
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    Democrats aren't much better. What is the reasoning for keeping dead people on the voter rolls?

    LINK: Michigan’s Secretary of State Fights to Keep Dead on Voter Rolls | The Heritage Foundation

    Yes, I know, its from the Heritage Foundation. I'm sure the article will be dismissed just because of that. But its no secret that Dems do everything that they can to not clean up the voter registration lists. Why is that?

    Lets get a compromise going. Dems allow "voter registration purges" but its done under strict scrutiny by both sides while making every name removed available to the public and the person that is removed gets sent a letter notification of the removal with which they have 30 days to respond, in person with identification, to dispute any removal. No purges will be allowed to happen in an election year (the year OF the election...not just people running for election every single year after year after year after year...) for any Federal position.
     
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    There is no low he won't go and his "followers" emulate it.
     
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    After Trump's actions in 2020, it will be important to keep an eye on what he does and tries to do, especially if the voting doesn't go his way. He tried to steal one election, it's far easier to imagine he'll try to steal another.

    But we have to be extremely careful not to emulate him. In 2020, pretty early on Trump started telling people that if he lost, it would be because of cheating. He's already started laying the groundwork for that again.
    However, his opponents should not be attempting to do the same thing he did, planting the seeds early on that they can then swing back to if the voting does not go Biden's way.

    Democrats, please do not try to emulate Trump any more than the Democrats already have. At this point it should be beyond obvious that trying to beat Trump at being Trump does not work and only makes you look stupid. Democrats, it's time to be the adults in the room, possibly for the first time this decade. We don't need more adults acting like children. We've had our fill of adults acting like children. It's far past time to stop trying to out-retard Trump and MAGA.
     
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    "In one Michigan town, more than 100 voters were removed after an activist lobbied officials, citing an obscure state law from the 1950s."

    So democrats only want to follow law and order when they agree with the outcome ?

    ;)
     
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    His ignorance and lack of character, or morals, has not diminished his impact on The Following and thus the body politic. In part because the system of norms, convention, and law establishing guardrails obeyed for centuries are constantly being probed for weaknesses to be exploited. Would you have predicted 10 years ago that a prez who refused to facilitate the peaceful transfer of power by way of an illegal plot to steal the election would stand as his party's nominee again? Or that an inveterate liar who has still not admitted defeat could get so many to believe the Big Lie? So dedicated to the cause are they that they work tirelessly to enable his corruption.

    Conservative group tells judge it has no evidence to back its claims of Georgia ballot stuffing

    SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) — A conservative group has told a Georgia judge that it doesn’t have evidence to support its claims of illegal ballot stuffing during the the 2020 general election and a runoff two months later.

    Texas-based True the Vote filed complaints with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in 2021, including one in which it said it had obtained “a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta” during the November 2020 election and a January 2021 runoff.

    https://apnews.com/article/georgia-...lot-stuffing-199113b47bc2df79c63fdf007cd23115
     
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    When you say both sides I assume in the weird American form of ‘democracy’ there are only two sides to choose between.
    Even if ‘both’ sides are lying and deceitful there is an old saying ‘two wrongs don’t make a right’.
    Is the correct response a shrug and to say they’re both as bad as each other, or to expose the evil every time it surfaces?
     
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    Ahhh so it seems Trump's team has learned from the left. Good for them! The left can be amazing teachers. Next they need to learn how to drop a 3am surprise. Maybe the DNC can teach them for a small fee?
     
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    The most common defense of children and criminals is to blame someone else for what they are guilty of; muddy the water to the point nothing is clear. Weak minds drink that mud.
    Y'all need to get the pigs outa the creek so it can clear up. After all, they are YOUR pigs.
     
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    He's turned the country on its head.
     
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    Yep, the hypocrisy and irony are fully inverted¡! :D
     
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    About time somebody did. Someone having enough chutzpah to restore order and a productive environment instead of promoting insanity.

    Like a strong teacher coming into a classroom that appears to be a holding cell for juvenile jackasses, and shaping them into productive people again.
    The only people who don't see the desperate need for that are the ones participating in the riot.
     
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    Your problem seems to be with Trump's supporters rather than Trump himself. Their loyalty to him is built on decades of ridicule and denigration from the very people who should have set an example of tolerance and understanding. You want to know who made them the way they are? Look in a mirror.
    I have no problem calling 6 January an illegal plot or insurrection, but it never had a chance to succeed. As I have posted before, anyone who called 6 January an attempted coup has never seen the real thing.
     
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    I think most who push that label on the Jan 6th incident know better. There is political advantage to calling it an insurrection, and people shy on moral principles will rush to cash in on it.
     

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