Fact check: Would a U.S. House bill ban assault weapons?

Better idea, ban low performance drivers, not high performance cars.

 

They pretty damn near are.

From F(G), this 1855 Colt shotgun is banned:

 

What if Biden chooses the Senate sponsor, Elizabeth Warren as his running mate?

Unfortunately, it has a good chance of becoming law. All that has to happen is for a single gun-owner to stay home or to not vote for Trump and all Republicans (even if they have to hold their nose like I would for my not-Representative.

 

Just like the NFA in 1934, and laws banning Saturday-night-specials, this tax is intended to take guns out of the hands of the poor, leaving the wealthy leftists with most of their guns.

 

Okay seems implied in your response. It is NOT OK to take my guns, whether or not they give up their armed security. There is literally nothing on Earth that would make it okay to take my guns.

Their greater force, more guns, better protection, may make it possible to take my guns but that does not make it okay.

 

That's why I make mine blue and underlined - as all hyperlinks should be. You shouldn't have to "minesweep" to find them. Links should be blue and underlined and nothing else should be.

 

Auto accidents are behind bacon-double-cheeseburgers.

 

Far too many people, including many combat vets (not saying a majority just that it's more than a few or some) have as their survival plan to take what they need from others. I trust no one.

There are no "like-minded" people in my neighborhood. If there were, then I'd never know it because a like-minded person would never tell anyone that knows who they are or where they live that they have more food past dinner and any guns at all... .Anyone who'd share that information wouldn't be "like minded" with me.

 

A .380 will cause much more damage to the person carrying it when the person they piss off by shooting with it beats them to a pulp...

Ok, that's not exactly accurate.

A .380 is not what I'd carry for self-defense. A 9mm is the exact diameter, heavier, higher velocity, higher impact and only weighs fractions of an ounce more - in the entire round, not just the bullet.

Far more important, in almost every case and almost every caliber comparison, is shot placement. A .380 makes for much more reliable shot placement and there are some really nice .380s made these days.

 

Why wait? Buy them now. And, in either case, once you buy 2-3, you'll want 2-3 more.

 

They defined it. I quoted their definition in the bill. It's very comprehensive.

 

Don't go down either of these paths. It doesn't matter whether or not they could demonstrate any efficacy or want (necessity is impossible) for the law. It doesn't matter if they're willing to ban every other deadly thing known to man.

There is but one argument against any law like this: No! Period.

 

I live in a apartment and don’t have much space

 

That's an idea, I'll start doing that, thanks

 

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I just checked mine to see... Nope.. they don't take much space. Under the sofa, under the bed, behind the door, leaning against the desk, and in the pantry.. Anywhere I tried mine, it went without any space problem. Get one. They're fun. If you're handy, build one. Even more fun.

Edit: and better get some before it's too late... I never cared about having one until Obama was elected. Then I got some and love them. Fun to build, fun to customize, fun to shoot.

 

If your mechanically low IQ : will it be hard to maintain. ??
I don’t even know what AR type or model

 

I remember having a wrist rocket back in the day a long time ago. I should look into those again, I couldnt hit anything smaller than a tree but I have time to practice now.

 

There are plenty of good AR-15 sites. Plenty here who would, I'm sure, help you.

Like any gun, they like a good cleaning. Unlike most guns, they won't complain if you don't clean them after every range outing.

Some say run 'em dry; others say run 'em wet. There are only a handful of spots that really need a bit of grease on build or rarely on strip, a few more that need a drop or two of oil after every cleaning. The only thing that takes a bit of work is the bolt, if you shoot a lot. But even that is just labor; brass brush and CLP and elbow grease and time. Nothing difficult at all.

The gun forums here should have, but I don't remember seeing that they do have, some sticky threads with basic gun safety. Find some somewhere. Never point your gun at anyone. Always assume it's loaded. Gun and ammo not even in the same room when cleaning or doing dryfire exercises. Oh, never dryfire your AR lower - as in with the upper pivoted or off.

First time you load it, load one round. Second time, load 2 rounds. Do that a couple times. Then try 5 or 10... Only then think about 30. This is more for you than the gun - since you don't have a lot of experience... minimize the damage if you do something stupid.

Finger off the trigger - straight forward, until the target is in your sights..

That's a short course. You'll want to participate in AR forums - the largest has a newbie section, watch videos - from reputable sources, not Internet commandos, read some safety, care, and other articles.

It will all be fun. More anti-gunners convert as the result of a trip to the range than ever convert from the heated discussions we have on sites like this. That's because guns are just plain FUN!

 

For home defense should I get AR or .38 Revolver

I don’t care for shotguns

 

Alternately, you can buy a bunch of lowers and assemble them as you get the money.
That way you get exactly the gun you want.

 

I agree 100%. The point was that they should give up their armed security before discussing taking mine. That way the discussion would never take place.

 

Well, that's one kind of approach, maybe the right one. The 'individualist'. There is probably a strong cultural bias in America, fanned by Hollywood and movies like 'Rambo', towards this way of doing things. And it probably goes back to the Iliad, or earlier, because that's what entertains: we can identify with the Lone Hero.

My own take on things is that in a real SHTF situation, it will be organized groups that come out best. Sort of like trying to cross the West from Ohio to California in the mid 19th Century: best to have a few dozen others with you. And not only because of safety in numbers: you also get the advantages of the division of labor -- I believe that in a typical militia group of several dozen, you'll get people with past experience (or even present experience) in combat medicine, civil engineering, comms, and so on.
However, at the moment, the militia is very thin: a few thousand people, maybe a small number of tens of thousands at most. With a higher-than-desirable proportion of eccentrics in it as well, spread out into a few hundred groups of ten or twenty people. To be a real force, it must grow by at least two orders of magnitude -- even to attaint the perhaps-mythical figure of '3%' of the 25 million males who voted for Trump. Hopefully, events will be a big recruiter.

But ... if there are none like you near you, then of course you have no choice.

 

I've been seeing variants of this argument for fifteen years. "Better a hit with a .22 than a miss with a .45".
I reckon it will vary for individuals, and if someone finds that a .22 or .32 or .380 is all they can handle, then they had better put in a few dozen hours at the shooting range.

 

I’d stay away from the small frame 2” barrel .38 specials. A joy to carry but not easy to shoot well and that 2” barrel kills velocity, which the .38 does not have much to begin with.

A 4” medium frame .38 is a fine gun for home defense. Of course a .357 magnum is also and you can shot all the .38 you want out of it.

Something like a Ruger GP100 4” .357 magnum or a Smith and Wesson 686 4” magnum are just about the ideal home defense gun IMO. You can use .357 or .38 ammo in them. They are not hard to shoot with .357 and that caliber has a track record second to none in its ability to stop a threat. But if .357 is too hot to shoot for someone then they can both shoot .38 equally well.