False advertising is a crime everywhere; use it against lying SOB's

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think there are laws against false advertising in all fifty States. So why don't those laws apply to (mostly Republican) electioneering politicians? I think there should be prosecutions against those who make false statements in order to gain votes. One glaring example of this: it has become all too common among Republican candidates to claim that 'leftist', i.e. Democratic, candidates want abortion to be legal "right up until the moment of birth". That is an outright lie! There are ZERO Democrats who have voiced such a wish. We Democrats only want a return to the Roe ruling, which made abortion legal only during - what was it - the first 25 weeks. Of course Republicans are guilty of many other electioneering lies, especially claiming that the 2020 election was 'stolen'. I say, "prosecute the SOB's under false advertising laws and lock them up"!!

 

LOL. Good luck. Lying is part and parcel of politics - on both sides of the aisle. It always has been.

 

Yeah but ignoring the law is no excuse IMHO.

 

So then go out and lock them up LOL.

 

LOL

 

What about false MSM reporting? Shouldn't that be a crime as well? And if it is where is it being enforced in the Western world?

 

That cannot be a criminal offense because it would violate our fundamental tenet espousing "freedom of the press". But it can be a civil offense and of course the $787 million settlement against Fox awarded to Dominion Voting Systems bears that out.

 

So the US media can legally claim that Ukraine is winning the war even though Russia is kicking the bejesus out of them?

 

We are reluctant to apply those same type of laws to politics because any law can be used (or enforced) in selective ways to go after one side but not the other.

You can write a law without bias, but that does not ensure the enforcement of that law will be without bias.

It's going to be up for the voters to decide. That is also why political Parties exist, so voters can pick which Political Party they trust.
Unfortunately a better solution has not been found.

You don't want the government deciding what "the truth" is in an election campaign.

 

This thread and it's claim IS false advertising.

Biden said that if he was elected he was going to cure cancer..... When does the prosecution of him begin?

 

But politicians don't have freedom of speech? Are you serious?


Pssst they do.

 

Ukraine has already won the war. Ukraine remains sovereign. Ukraine has not buckled under. Answer your own stupid questions from now on. You insult us.

 

You aren't seriously trying to assert that freedom of speech is without guard rails. You think a guy can yell "fire!" in a crowded theatre house causing a stampede and people trampled to death and face no charges? Get real, guy. You insult out intelligences.

 

Uh, is that legitimately the call of the umpire or your paltry opinion? Opinions are like buttholes: everybody has one and they all stink!

 

Look, I get you want to put Republican politicians in jail for “lying.” It’s common for fascists to try to invent excuses to imprison those they disagree with. But, freedom of speech protects this.

I would never insult “out [sic] intelligences [sic]”. But, I’d like to inform you that using the “fire in a crowded theater” argument is generally a sign of someone who doesn’t understand free speech. Feel free to educate yourself:
https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...g-the-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-quote/264449/

 

Well I'll be dad-blamed. 'Purely aspiration utterance, not filthy lies -- prosecution attempt wouldn't hold water before a duly-impaneled jury. 'Would be jury nullification i.e. no crime.

 

No, I cited the Oliver W. Holmes hypothetical aptly because I added the proviso that persons lost their lives in the ensuing stampede.

 

It is evident by your previous post that you've been duped twice by the MSM and you've lost the issue by your own fault. Do I need to point out all three of them out to you?

 

Sigh. The criminality of the matter is not dependent on someone dying. And, the assumption of the example was that someone could be harmed. That was the whole point.

 

Most "truth in advertising" laws explicitly exclude statements related to political campaigns and electioneering.

 

Obama said "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor!"
Then we get to the laying, corrupt MSM... then we get to you for lying to your kids about Santa Claus..

 

Yes they can say whatever they like. But if they break some law - like defamation - using that speech then there are consequences. Politicians defame their opponents in political ads all the time. We appear to be willing to accept that in politics.

 

Defamation is not the same thing as lying. Lying in and of itself is not illegal. There's no recourse of a politician claiming to be pro-choice when they're actually pro-life. That is the kind of thing this user is trying to litigate... admittedly against Republicans primarily. This particular fascist user has made recent statements about how much he detests the Republican party and how he wants the "entirety" of cohorts who believe the 2020 election was stolen should be locked up and the keys thrown away.

 

Lies can be defamatory. Think about it.

 

This thread is not about defamation, it's about mischaracterizing your political views... ie - "false advertising" of your political views.