Federal judge poised to set Trump trial date in election interference case

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Incarceration time, and perhaps incarcertion situation.... that's about it...
     
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    Other cases had a longer time, this is a short turnaround given the nature of the case. And there's no justification for it either(other than the judge agreeing with the prosecution on the 'public's right, that's not anywhere in the Constitution. The Sixth Amendment refers to the individual defendant, there was never the idea that a trial was held for the public's benefit!)

    If this judge were remotely interested in being bipartisan, she would have split the difference. It should have been the summer of 2024 at earliest, and no later than New Year 2025.

    Instead, she adds a mere two months and thinks that makes her impartial LOL.
     
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    Unless he and his lawyers both know his only hope is to delay the trial until he has the power to get it dismissed.
     
  4. Egoboy

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    Which he will never, ever, get again....

    I think his real strategy is a Ford like Pardon, once Joe has secured term #2.

    It's another example of his delusional station in life...
     
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    Judge Chutkan: 'Mr Trump, like any defendant, will have to make the trial date work.'

    Hugo Lowell
    @hugolowell · 3m (Guardian)
    Judge Chutkan at Trump election case hearing: “Setting a trial date does not depend and should not depend on the defendant’s personal and professional obligations. Mr Trump, like any defendant, will have to make the trial date work regardless of his schedule.”

    Brandi Buchman @Brandi_Buchman · 9m
    Chutkan: Trump like any defendant will have to make the trial date work regardless of his schedule. If this case involved a profesional athlete for example, it would be inappropriate to set a trial date based on her game schedule

    Brandi Buchman @Brandi_Buchman 4h
    TODAY, I will be reporting LIVE for @lawcrimenews from the Prettyman courthouse in Washington, D.C. where it is expected that Judge Tanya Chutkan will set a trial date for Donald Trump’s Jan. 6 indictment. He wants April 2026, Special Counsel seeks Jan. 2024.
    Join me at 10AM ET.


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    Then it looks like he's ****ed either way.
    Great!
     
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    'Legal analyst mocks Trump's lawyer for being caught in a lie by Jack Smith's prosecutors'

    Sarah K. Burris
    August 28, 2023, 8:55 PM ET

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    "Relaying his experience sitting in court former federal prosecutor and MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirschner recalled a moment when Trump's lawyer, John Lauro, was making the case that he couldn't possibly be prepared to go to trial next year.

    "The defense counsel John Lauro did not do himself any favors," said Kushner. "He was a bomb thrower. It sounded like he was making arguments to Donald Trump's base, not to the judge. When the judge implored him, 'give me a reasonable alternative proposal.' He said, and I think I can quote him because I was furiously taking notes. He said, 'We can't do it in anything less than the time we have proposed.' And she had had about enough. And she said, 'Well, then, you just bought yourself a March 4, 2024 trial date.'":roflol:
     
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    Why does Trump need more than 2 years to formulate a defense? This is supposed to be the easiest case in history!

    Some people said not guilty 5 minutes after the indictment came out.
     
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    Well, they certainly have their cover shot now...

    Scowling Man
     
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    I think it is safe to say that there would be whining from RW media about ANY court date that the judge would have set. With this date, they whine about super Tuesday, if the date was postponed until after the election, they would have whined about stringing out the case until the election. You can't appease the Trump lovers in the RW media universe.
     
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    What is funny to me is that they are accusing him of election "interference" while doing the same exact thing themselves.
    These morons don't even try to hide the double standard anymore.
    PATHETIC
     
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    That is an obvious denial of the defendants rights to due process. Maybe in your world you can dump five million records on the defense team, then demand a quick trial knowing the defense cannot possibly process the evidence.
    Why don't you cut to the chase and go straight to lynching?
     
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    I think this was pre-emptive - just like Trump saying if he lost in 2020 it would be because of election fraud. It is likely a strategy that Trump asked him to use.
     
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    As has been explained many times, those records are all digitized. Gone are the days when people had to go through stacks and stacks of paper. Why should it take a defense team longer than 7 months?
     
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    Not so. The Prosecution asked for January 2024, an absurd proposition. The Trump Team asked for 2026, also an absurd proposition. The middle ground of these, is clearly late 2024-into Early 2025.

    Actually, I'll be very specific: May-to-June 2024. That should allow a case to resolve just before the Election. Ideally even sooner given the aggressive Special Counsel tactics.

    But the judge who clearly has her side towards the prosecution, doesn't aim for a middle ground between the two parties. Instead, she mocks the defense and any neutral observer with the March date.
     
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    These are not death penalty charges... even your bubble must have made that clear...

    This isn't 1956.... these are computerized, searchable records... I could teach a monkey to look up what I wanted to find, and this team should consider hiring some/more.

    Bet the defense team didn't spend a single minute doing that yesterday, even though prosecution discovery is complete.... Too busy whining and another day lost.

    P.S. NBC has been pretty consistant with reporting 12.8 million pages of discovery.
     
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    Late May was already claimed by Loose Cannon, for a clearly tougher case to try with multiple defendants and many classified documents.

    Why should Judge T create a conflict when none is required?
     
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    Oh obviously... I fully understand the performative nature of what Lauro was doing yesterday. Still, it's gotta suck to put on the record that you aren't going to be up to the effort because that's what your client wants..

    The old saying "the cruelty is the point" was for the masses. For people working for Trump, "the humiliation is the point"
     
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    And following the humiliation is the lack of payment. Thankfully for Trump, there is no shortage of lawyers in America.
     
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    You are going have a lot of crow to eat. Humiliation? You are doing a fine job of it here unless your posts are satire, and I missed it.
     
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    I've heard a lot of whining, but I haven't heard a single Trump supporter able to argue that Trump is innocent or explain why his trial should not be held before the election. And I never will.
     
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    Why would the she go for the middle ground between the two? That favors the defense, given their BATSHIT INSANE proposal. She gave the defense MULTIPLE opportunities to propose a more reasonable date and they refused.
     
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    I mean, how hard would it have been to throw out another unreasonable date, just to not look like a punching bag? December 2025??

    Because MAGA is never wrong, so it was April 2026, and that's that... Negotiating skills of a 6 year old wanting ice cream after dinner...
     
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    Word is that Trump's lawyer had to be told to "turn the temperature down" twice. I still have not heard ANY actual defense from Trump's defenders, much less his lawyers. It is all whining. No actual explanation for why he is somehow innocent.
     
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    They really don't have one, which is why all this whining about a "defense strategy" cracks me up. All they need to do is be able to counter, as best they can, the onslaught of the prosecution presentation.. And that wouldn't take 2 months, much less 2 years...

    It's all about the motions.... venue, immunity, biased people.... blah blah blah...
     
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