Florida is Looking Good for Clinton

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  1. 22catch

    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He sure did. It was set up pretty amateurish as well with that Hispanic host practically stuttering out the question if " Dreamers or illegals whom she considers citizens should be afraid of deportation if they vote. Obamas first words heavily emphasized were " absolutely not " and his last word heavily emphasized was " confidential "

    Totally prepared question for her by Obamas people to encourage non citizens to vote. Just watch the video
     
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    Relax. Florida is in Trump's pocket. Let liberals delude themselves. Some of them will be drowning their sorrows in Florida. As I sad, an easy win for Donny.
     
  3. raytri

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    Okay, I'll go through this slowly for you.

    Politico reported what a presidential candidate said. Because he is a presidential candidate. And this is what news outlets do: tell you what people they are covering are saying.

    It does not mean Trump is a credible source of information. It simply means he is the news being covered.

    I'm now doubly appalled that I had to explain that.

    I'm not sure how you can imply I either forgot or don't know something that never came up. That's just dumb.

    If you want to bring up redistricting, why don't you explain what you're talking about and how it's relevant to this discussion? That's normally how it's done.
     
  4. MMC

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    Well like I mentioned BO peep did say the Black Vote wasn't where they were suppose to be. Naturally the leftness is hoping Florida doesn't fall Trumps way. If it does, they have to stay up later than they planned.

    Kind of hard for them to riot if they are all tired and pooped out. KnowwhatImean. :grin:
     
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    Look I cant help it if you are slow.....and didn't know there are just as many links showing that Florida is looking good for Trump as there are for Clinton. That's off the get go. There was no need to Show Limbaugh or any others. One would be good enough. You are able to filter that down.....Right?

    Now that you have that point.

    Nobody asked you about anything brought up, or if you did or didn't know about the Census Ray ray.....Now can you answer the question about who did the redistricting from the 2010 Census.

    There is only one correct answer. So lets see if you can get it Right and quit playing like Forrest Gump.
     
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    You are entitled to your misinformed opinion but the video does NOT show what you are alleging.
     
  7. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    You're the one who thinks coverage implies agreement, and I'm slow? LOL!

    Since you never actually made that point, how can you claim I "didn't know"?

    Never mind that raw link count is a lousy measure of an argument's validity or lack thereof.

    Again, the normal way to introduce an argument is to actually make it -- not try to make the other person guess what your point is.

    But fine.

    Here's the legislative and legal history of the 2010 redistricting in Florida:
    https://ballotpedia.org/Redistricting_in_Florida

    I'm not sure what part you think is relevant to a discussion about statewide early-voting numbers. Maybe you could actually make your point instead of playing guessing games.
     
  8. 22catch

    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How can I be misinformed or alleging anything when there's a video with her asking that question and his response as stated? V I D E O. Facts in our faces and ears win out over left wing shill deflection. The only logical reason for her pre approved question and his answer was to encourage non citizens to vote. Think about it. Why else would the POTUS be sitting down with some hack host answering questions about deportation a day before election?

    She was literally blubbering through the question. Obama is a disgrace
     
  9. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    Ah, so after decades of pissing on a demographic, you expect Republicans to suddenly grab a majority of their vote overnight? Otherwise the demographic is liberal?

    Hell, if I were a Democratic strategist, I'd be worried at how easily Bush pulled in so many Hispanics. That would be a warning sign to me that I couldn't take the Hispanic vote for granted.

    But in Brewskier's circular-logic world, even evidence that Republicans can attract large numbers of Hispanics isn't evidence that Republicans can attract large numbers of Hispanics.
     
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    The only real way to measure extremism is to do so against the rest of the Western world, and by the standards of Europe (and Canada) the Democrats are semi-moderate conservatives and the Republicans are right-wing wackos.
     
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    Conservatives and the alt-right are seriously out of touch with reality. The rest of the world knows Donnie Trump is a clear and present danger.
     
  12. raytri

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    I'm amazed that so many self-professed "patriotic" Americans are planning to vote for the guy who our allies loathe and our adversaries love.
     
  13. 22catch

    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes let's do measure ourselves against the rest of the western world. Let's pick one oh say Germany. Merkel herself admitted to the complete failure of their open border policy for Muslim refugee and immigrants. And lawd mercy what that they building in Berlin to keep the refugees out? A WALL taller than the original Berlin Wall.

    So I don't think comparing ourselves to the failed liberal policies of the West help us much.
     
  14. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    You're kidding, right?

    It's in Munich; not Berlin. It's a local project by a single neighborhood worried about a refugee center depressing property values. It's daft.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/1...-wall-to-separate-town-from-refugee-wave.html

    So one xenophobic neighborhood somewhere in Europe builds a wall, and you spin that up into "Germany" doing something. Well done.
     
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    Only England stands with us unilaterally no one else trusts us believe it. Who would we spy and get caught wire tapping other heads of State. We are perceived as a people and a Country as bullies and self entitled.

    No one sees us like you state it's the opposite in fact. Keep spinning that left garbage
     
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    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My pardon it is Munich but the fact remains they have had enough and Merkel admits it. Liberal policies got them here and it's going to get a lot worse
     
  17. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Wrong.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...p-us-presidential-live-election-a7367591.html

    Hillary beats Trump in every country -- except Russia.

    We have solid alliances with scores of countries -- Korea, Japan, the NATO countries. We have solid economic and diplomatic relationships with many more.
     
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    We were just talking about the West and that to me is Europe and the Americas. Your jumping all over again.
    Anyway I think we derailing, I like the topic though. Travel much? Euros condone us at best average is dislike and many detest us.

    Trump will do fine but lol he's gotta win Florida first.
     
  19. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    I've been fortunate enough to have traveled quite a bit in my life.

    When I was 5 going on 6, I spent a year living in Germany and Belgium.

    When I graduated from high school, I spent a few weeks with German friends on vacation in Italy and Corsica.

    Later, my family took a trip through Germany, Denmark and Norway.

    I've been to Ireland twice. Got engaged in Scotland.

    Once my kids were old enough, we started taking them places. They've been to Italy and Ireland.

    Closer to home, I've visited Mexico and Canada. My oldest daughter is probably going to go to college in Vancouver.

    Everywhere I've gone, I've found people to be people. Not everyone is thrilled by U.S. foreign policy, but they are generally just normal folks on a one-to-one basis.
     
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    I didn't ask you for the History Ray ray.....I asked you who did the redistricting with the last Census in 2010. And yet you still can't just answer the question. If you can't handle the simple. Then you surely can't move to the next level. Make note of that going forward.
     
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    Anyone else getting fed up with this horribly oversimplified ignorant bilge we keep hearing about "liberal policies"?
     
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    Yes. I wish liberal policies would disappear forever
     
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    You live in Pittsburgh. Why is it that so many rabid conservatives seem to live in liberal areas?
     
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    Let me reiterate what I said above, you are entitled to your misinformed opinion but the video does NOT show what you are alleging.
     
  25. 22catch

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    Can't make you lefties happy no matter what if I supply you with a half a page of failed European liberal globalist actions resulting in chaos over there you spout off its fantasy or conspiracy theory. The point we were discussing was whether to judge our liberal standards to others in the West and I say don't

    Also what's wrong with simple? It's complex semantics and hyperbole that just makes the poster happy with themselves. Bottom line is Europe is screwed. By liberal policies. They are regretting every single state their unfettered Muslim refugee immigration. We won't have it here.

    GO TRUMP, if the cubbies can do it so can he
     

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