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    My Signature should make "ALL READERS" a lot of sense today, exactly as historically it made sense to me, this is why I was forced to create it years before, my signature is legal today and I feel as a vindicated person. HB

    For Immediate Release - July 4, 2012

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    Esther Levens - 913 648 0022 - www.UC4i.org - voices@unitycoalitionforisrael.org

    Prime Minister Committee Report:
    Israelis Have a Legal Right to Settle All Judea and Samaria


    A Committee appointed by Prime Minister Netanyahu to examine the legality of Jewish construction in Judea and Samaria has issued a statement today, Tuesday, July 4, 2012 - Israelis have a legal right to settle that region.

    Retired Israeli Supreme Court Justice Edmond Levy, who heads that Committee, declared:
    “According to international law, Israelis have a legal right to settle all of Judea and Samaria, at the very least the lands that Israel controls under agreements with the Palestinian Authority. Therefore, the establishment of Jewish settlements [in Judea and Samaria] is, in itself, not illegal.”

    The committee was established by the Prime Minister to determine and cement the legal status of the outposts in Judea and Samaria, with an emphasis on communities that were not built on privately owned Palestinian land but their status was still in doubt due to legal bureaucracy.

    The committee issued its report that was subsequently handed over to Attorney-General Yehuda Weinstein. In the report, Levy wrote:

    “upon completing the committee’s tasks, and considering the testimonies heard, the basic conclusion is that from an international law perspective, the laws of ‘occupation’ do not apply to the unique historic and legal circumstances surrounding Israel’s decades-long presence in Judea and Samaria.”

    Quoting the report: “Likewise, the Fourth Geneva Convention [relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War] on the transfer of populations does not apply, and wasn’t intended to apply to communities such as those established by Israel in Judea and Samaria.”

    “...dozens of new neighborhoods have been erected, without government authorization and at times without a contiguous link to the mother community. Several were built outside the legal jurisdiction allotted to the community. This prevalent phenomenon has required large amounts of funding therefore the committee finds it hard to believe that it was done without the government’s knowledge.”

    In conclusion, the report said:

    “we have discovered a phenomenon within the Israeli settlement enterprise in Judea and Samaria that does not befit a country that upholds the rule of law. From now on, it must be made very clear to the proponents of the settlement enterprise and to the political echelon that they are to operate only within the confines of the law, and the various law enforcement institutions must decisively enforce the law in the future.”

    The committee’s recommendations include the following:

    The government must clarify its position on the issue of Israeli settlement in Judea and Samaria to prevent varying interpretations of its policy; a new community will only be built after the government or an authorized ministerial committee has approved it; the expansion of a community outside the bounds of its authorized jurisdiction must first be approved by the defense minister or a ministerial committee on settlements, in coordination with the prime minister.

    On the other hand, the committee declared that the encouragement provided by the government to the settlement enterprise constituted authorization. According to the committee, communities that were built on land owned by the state, or privately owned Israeli land, with the help of government bodies could not be classified as “unauthorized” due to the absence of an official government decision to authorize them. The very assistance provided by the government in their establishment constitutes implicit authorization.

    Under these circumstances, the report concluded, the evacuation of such communities would be impractical and another solution, such as compensation or land swap, should be implemented. Therefore, the committee recommends in its report, the government should avoid issuing demolition orders for these communities because it is the government itself that created this situation in the first place.

    It was also recommended that the government should speed up the examination of the communities whose status isn’t defined. They suggested that the government define these disputed communities’ status in terms of evacuations or demolitions only after a thorough investigation and a full legal proceeding. In order to ease the lives of the residents, the committee suggested the establishment of special courts in Judea and Samaria specifically to settle land disputes.

    To prevent uncertainty and to promote stability, the committee encouraged Israelis and Palestinians to record their land purchases within an agreed upon time frame of between four and five years, after which anyone who did not complete the process would lose rights to property. The committee further proposed that Israelis would only be allowed to purchase land in Judea and Samaria under the auspices of an authorized body.

    Americans who support Israeli sovereignty over all of the land designated to "reconstitute the ancient Jewish homeland" (quoted from the landmark decision at San Remo, Italy, April 25, 1920) rejoice at the definitive findings of this committee. Israel has finally cast off the bonds of false accusations and is no longer accepting the false designation of "occupation". That terminology is finally put to rest by the findings of PM Netanyahu's Committee.

    It is truly a "landmark" decision handed down by this authoritative source. The UCI Campaign to move the United States Embassy is substantiated by this edict which validates the granting of rights by the Supreme Council of Allied Powers international law. This ruling adds credence to the Unity Coalition for Israel (UCI) campaign to promote the United States becoming the first nation to accept the legality of International Jewish claims to Jerusalem as the eternal Capital of Israel. The Congressional purchase of the land on which to build the Embassy was completed after passage of the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 was approved overwhelmingly by both houses of Congress.

    The original Embassy Act reflects the will of the American people. Therefore in our campaign we urge Congress to finally pass House Resolution 1006 and companion Senate bill 1622; together they will eliminate the Presidential waiver granting the President the right to defer implementation of the move of the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem every 6 months for "security reasons". All presidents since 1995 have used this waiver to delay the move, thus repeatedly thwarting the public outcry for action.

    --"NEXT YEAR IN JERUSALEM"-- is the prayer repeated by Jews all over the world for more than 3000 years.


    We hope to gather in Jerusalem in 2013 for the U.S. Embassy ground-breaking that can soon become reality!
     
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    The decisions of Netayahu's appointed committee are absolute BS.

    Israel is a treaty member of the United Nations and of the Geneva Conventions and those two treaty obligations establish the international laws under which Israel is required to conduct it's affairs.

    Article 2 of the UN Charter states, "2.All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter" and "4.All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."

    Article 4 of the UN Charter expressly establishes that "1.Membership in the United Nations is open to all other peace-loving states which accept the obligations contained in the present Charter.."

    Article 24 of the UN Charter states, "1.In order to ensure prompt and effective action by the United Nations, its Members confer on the Security Council primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security, and agree that in carrying out its duties under this responsibility the Security Council acts on their behalf."

    Article 25 of the UN Charter states, "The Members of the United Nations agree to accept and carry out the decisions of the Security Council in accordance with the present Charter. "

    Israel is in gross violation of it's treaty obligation as a member of the United Nations because of it's consistant failure to "accept and carry out the decisions of the Security Council" related to numerous Security Council Resolutions directed at Israel not the least of which is UN Security Council Resolution 242 which explicitly states, "Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security" that addressed the invasion of Egypt, Jordan and Syria in 1967.

    In accordance with the treaty obligations voluntarily agreed to by Israel the issue of the "occupied territories" has been addressed by the United Nations General Assembly, United Nations Security Council and the International Court of Justice. All of these have determined that Israel is an occupying nation subject to the conditions of the Geneva Conventions and Israel has previously agreed that the above international entities have sole authority to make such a determination. Netanyahu's committee fails to acknowledge the treaty obligations of Israel by denying the authority of these international organizations.

    UNSC Resolution 242 requires Israel to withdraw from the territories occupied by the Israeli military in 1967 and Israel must, based upon it's treaty obligations, comply with this Security Council Resolution. It's occupation of the West Bank, Golan Heights and E Jerusalem are in violation of international laws that Israel has agreed to abide by.
     
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    - the Nazis also believed everything they did was "Legal " .within the Law . They had the judges and lawyers to prove it
    was all legal under German Law. The manipulation of the legal system to give "cover" to violations of international law is no defense -, and, whatever control Zionist have in Washington, Israel shall in due course be rightly condemned as a pariah state in the eyes of the world.




    A prayer ? I didnt know godless atheist Zionist - pray . What abt those quasi-psuedo Jewish Russian pimps and prostitutes in Tel-Aviv ?


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    Since when did the pathological lying Ashkenazi Jews give a darn about what's right?
     
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    Under the Talmudic Noahide laws, adopted by the USA in 1991, we have to accept their decision and support it.
     
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    Esther Levens, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ....she is a typical example of what has HURT Americans, not helped Americans.

    She and her ilk care...only about Israel.

    Not Americans or anyone else, unless it is about...

    1) Your money

    2) The blood of your soldiers

    Cannot you SEE that these people never do or say what is truly right for America...but for Israel, and therefore, by extension, Jewish supremacism?

    If not, HOW not?

    Just listen to this utter prawn fawn...over Esther Levens.

    LISTEN to what he is really admitting to you.

    Only the deaf or stupid can fail to hear...


    [video=youtube;gYvyYtmsxUw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYvyYtmsxUw[/video]
     
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    "Her accomplishments have brought - countless amounts of aid to Israel "


    Huh ? countles ? - One may ask and what did Americans get in return. ?


    demands for more aid ? LOL


    For how many more decades can americans tolerate /afford to serve + be milked by their Zionist masters. ?


    <<<mod edit>>> flaming


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    In a nutshell, they pay...to be Governed....by Israel.

    Zionists meant it when they admit to shaping America so that there is 'not a dime's worth of a difference' between America and Israel.

    What the really meant was, an objective to ensnare their media, politic, and financial structures, so that Americans get poorer, while Israel gets stronger.

    The US must have more of their people die - so that Jewish extremists don't need risk their Gucci army.

    The stain must be on Christian Americans - so that the Jewish extremists can say that they weren't directly involved. Hitler could claim the same. He never killed a soul. Loved his veg and his pets.

    What a terrible thing to have happened, and with no end in sight.

    I hope that Americans can one day reclaim their nation, from this foreign entity.
     
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    What was his name again; Brownnose?
     
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    Contact:
    Esther Levens - 913 648 0022

    Let's ring Esther for a chat, since the OP was kind enough to provide her details.

    Hurrah for Esther, Hurrah for the tiny wickle jewish state

    ;)
     
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    Learn from whom pray tell? NAP HERE or NAP there does not interest me... What I want is EVIDENCE, the reason that propelled your gall to insult JEWS!

    I am still waiting for the substantiation or the reason of your VILE ATTACK on my country!

    I want and expect EVIDENTIARY PROOF of defaming, disparaging and the denigration of Jews
    !
     
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    Of course they have a perfect right to settle those regions. They won the war.

    That is why you always want to win your wars.

    Not only do they have a right to settle those lands, they have a perfect right to expel all the Syrians (masquerading as Palestinians) out of their territory.
     
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    I'm going to warn ALL members that they are going to be required to be respectful in expressing their political opinions and beliefs on this thread. That does not imply that "inflammatory" opinions cannot be expressed but it does mean that all members are going to be required to respect the other members regardless of the opinions expressed.

    Anyone that addresses another member without being respectful of that member will be summarily dealt with. I don't have the time or inclination to spend time going through every post to enforce the Mission Statement and Forum Rules as each member is responsible for doing that in their own posts.

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    http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/un/un242.htm

    Israel, as a treaty member of the United Nations has an obligatory requirement to comply with ALL UN Security Council Resolutions IMMEDIATELY.

    Additionally, International Law under the Geneva Conventions prohibits the pillaging of Occupied territories by the occupying power.

    http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/COM/380-600038?OpenDocument

    The allowing of Israeli citizens to immigrate into the occupied territories of the West Bank, Golan Heights, and E Jerusalem constitutes the pillaging of the land by Israel and is a direct violation of International Law and the Geneva Conventions.
     
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    The arab world including Palestinian arabs rejected the Partition resolution (UNSC 181) thus de-facto and de-jure renouncing their rights to the land allotted to them by that resolution. As the land is not theirs and does not belong to a country it can't be considered occupied.
     
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    Uh, nope. The rules of war specifically state that it is illegal to retain territory acquired through war. You might not like it but there it is. Paragraph 2; http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/RESOLUTION/GEN/NR0/240/94/IMG/NR024094.pdf?OpenElement
     
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    The land is occupied, no way around it, it was occupied during war for reasons one can justify (I do) but it cant be justified in the long run and certainly not as permanent solution, how can a tiny "island" of jewish settlement surrounded by Arab villages be justified? ofc that land is theirs just look around.....,

    Israel has minimal economic need for those lands and retreating from them will not damage the economy, peace will boom it instead,

    The land we will retreat from can only be viewed as security risk (not much looking at the countries around us) and forgetting about the biblical borders - in my view the mere fact the Jews returned home after 2000 years is enough, borders are not that important as long as both nation can sustain themselves.
     
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    With all due respect, no sovereign country i.e. Israel should retreat... Retreat is like to give up... Like a nun lifting her apparel up and running from rapists. On the other hand a HUMORIST has described the country fairly well here... Read...

    "Only in Israel" By Israeli humorist, Efraim Kishon

    Israel is a country surrounded on all sides by enemies, but the people's headaches are caused by the neighbors upstairs.


    Israel is the only country in the world where the coffee is already so good that Starbucks went bankrupt trying to break into the local market.


    Israel is one of the few places in the world where the sun sets into the Mediterranean Sea.


    Israel is the only country in the world whose soldiers eat three sets of salads a day, none of which contain any lettuce (which is not really a food), and where olives ARE a food and even a main course in a meal, rather than something one tosses into a martini.


    Israel is the only country in the world where one is unlikely to dig a cellar without hitting ancient archaeological artifacts.


    Israel is the only country in the world where the leading writers in the country take buses.


    Israel is the only country in the world where the graffiti is in Hebrew.


    Israel is the only country in the world that has a National Book Week, during which almost everyone attends a book fair and buys books.


    Israel is a country where the same drivers who cuss you and flip you the bird will immediately pull over and offer you all forms of help if you look like you need it.


    Israel is the only country in the world with bus drivers and taxi drivers who read Spinoza and Maimonides.


    Israel is the only country in the world where no one cares what rules say when an important goal can be achieved by bending them.


    Israel is the only country in the world where reservists are bossed around and commanded by officers, male and female, younger than their own children.


    Israel is the only country in the world where "small talk" consists of loud, angry debate over politics and religion.


    Israel is the only country in the world where the ultra-Orthodox Jews beat up the police and not the other way around.


    Israel is the only country in the world where inviting someone "out for a drink" means drinking cola, coffee or tea.


    Israel is the only country in the world where bank robbers kiss the mezuzahas when they leave with their loot.


    Israel is one of the few countries in the world that truly likes and admires the United States.


    Israel is the only country in the world that introduces applications of high-tech gadgets and devices, such as printers in banks that print out your statement on demand, years ahead of the United States and decades ahead of Europe.


    Israel is the only country in the world where everyone on a flight gets to know one another before the plane lands. In many cases, they also get to know the pilot and all about his health or marital problems.


    Israel is the only country in the world where no one has a foreign accent because everyone has a foreign accent.


    Israel is the only country in the world where people cuss using dirty words in Russian or Arabic because Hebrew has never developed them.


    Israel is the only country in the world where patients visiting physicians end up giving the doctor advice.


    Israel is the only country in the world where everyone strikes up conversations while waiting in lines.


    Israel is the only country in the world where people call an attache case a "James Bond" and the "@" sign is called a "strudel".


    Israel is the only country in the world where there is the most mysterious and mystical calm ambience in the streets on Yom Kippur, which cannot be explained

    unless you have experienced it. Sunsets in Jerusalem are gorgeous every evening.


    Israel is the only country in the world where people read English, write Hebrew, and joke in Yiddish.
     
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    <<< Mod Edit: Flamebait >>> Israel is breaking international law. Fact.
     
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    I love Kishon, great humor...

    What I said doesn't hurt Israel, in many ways it will strengthen it, Jews hardly live on those lands anyway, retreat will be a good time to invest in the Negev, Trade will boom, think of all the money we can save on security and ofc peace of mind (to some extent as their will probably always be terrorists)

    you concern about the holy land? don't, making peace will be the closest thing for "exiled" Jews and native Jews (some are now Muslims) to join and truly revive the nation of old, what an historic moment it could be.
     
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    The only fair solution is two states one called Palestine in Jordan (send the dwarf King Abdulla al Tani) to England where he has stashed billions... and Israel without any Arabs except those Arab Israelis, the others should be transferred to Palestine ex Jordan.
     
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    The non-Jewish population in Palestine are not Jordanians, they're Palestinians. At no time has the government of Jordan ever been the "government" of the Palestinians although Jordan did provide adminstrative services and protection over the Palestinians. At no point were Palestinians ever considered to be citizens of Jordan, EVER! They are citizens of Palestine.

    The above merely echos the "aparthied" nature of Israeli Zionists that have been violating the inalienable Rights of the non-Jewish Palestinians since soon after the British Mandate for Palestine. When Israel is condemned for being an "Aparthied" state today it is based upon this type of proposal where the non-Jewish population should be forced from their homeland.
     
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    Excuse me but, it seems that you are not aware that during the 19 years of Jordan control of Judea and Samaria, thousands of Arabs holding Jordanian Passports and Jordanian IDs infiltrated the areas and squatted... These are the people that I am referring to as non Israeli Arabs... The dwarf King of Jordan refuses to recognize his own official documents and these people are in limbo in Israel proper.
    I wish somehow these people would be recognized again as Jordanians to return back from where they came.

    Speaking of apartheid you sir are watching Israel from the wrong end of the tunnel. I have yet to read that nearly ONE MILLION Jews thrown out of the Arab countries are not qualified as Arab Apartheid countries... The Arabs got rid of the minorities i.e. Egypt and the remaining Copt are being killed and their Churches burnt... in your eyes this is not apartheid... Something is wrong somewhere.
     
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