For The Anti Homosexual Members

That's like saying... I wish stupid people could just not open their mouth, or... I wish ugly people would just wear masks, or... I wish fat ugly people would just stay in doors. Your rationality is about that sound.

 

Extreamists on both sides of this issue have made death threats and have ignored civility on this issue but ignoring that the anti-gay proponents are just as guilty as the pro-gay advocates is hypocritical.

Is that why you posted an article about a gunman gunning down Christians, tragic yes, but irrelivant to this discussion. You are trying to deflect who is bullying who because the facts do not fit your narrative.

It is inane to suggest gays wanting a cake baked or being treated like any other patron is equal to the horrendous treatment homosexuals have received by some Christians and their legislators. That they are now screaming "victim" is pathetically sad.

 

The problem with the Christian Right is that many Christians disagree with them on this issue. You make it sound like Christians are a united front equally wanting to put gays back in the closet. The "gay mob" that has been mentioned a few times is largely Christian. It sounds like Christians need to recognize that within the religion there are different opinions and figure out how to move forward.

Check out this map of LGBT rights around the world https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory

72 countries still criminalize homosexuality in 2016, and some even sentence "offenders" to death. Uganda is a Christian nation that imprisons people who are gay, and that's a step up from the death penalty that still happens sometimes. Conservative Christians are wrong on this issue. Would God want people killed or jailed for loving who they love?

 

And by 'radical gay activists' you mean a gay couple who ordered a cake, and by 'lost their minds' you mean 'filed a complaint' with the State agency that complaints of discrimination are supposed to be filed with.

 

The vast majority of sex crimes committed against children happen within heterosexual families.

 

The stats I've seen show that acts of pedophilia are males raping young girls 3/4th of the time.

The other 1/4 of the time it's homosexual males raping young boys. Females molesting young boys almost never happens. So that would mean anytime there is male-male sex it is a homosexual act done by a homosexual.

Call it their "sexual orientation, or perversion, or mental illness, whatever."

Society does not need to create environments for gay men to rape boys in their own homes.

 

The vast majority of the "homosexuals raping boys" identify as heterosexual.
Do you have any evidence or data that a statistical outlier exists for homosexual couples addopting and abuse or do you simply accept this because it suits your narrative?

 

homosexual (ˌhəʊməʊˈsɛksjʊəl; ˌhɒm-)
n
(Psychology) a person who is sexually attracted to members of the same sex
adj
1. (Psychology) of or relating to homosexuals or homosexuality
2. (Biology) of or relating to the same sex

A homosexual act done by a homosexual has nothing to do with age.

If you want to use a word other than "homosexual" then please do so.

A male gay child rapist is going to rape young males. That's what turns them on.

www.americantraditions.org/Articles/How Homosexualists Redefine Homosexual Child Molesting.htm

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/gay-conn-couple-accused-rape-face-trial-article-1.1310010

 

The bottom line is this:

A homosexual is NOT more likely (due their their sexual orientation) to commit sexual or any other 'crime'.

Of course those who are bigoted against homosexual people, WILL use any 'twist' they can manage, to vilify homosexual people.

People should never fall for that.

 

Of course homosexual men are more likely to rape young boys, than heterosexual males and females, and female lesbians.

Do you have any statistics to prove otherwise????

Almost all rapes of young male children are homosexual acts done by homosexual males.

Your political posturing is dishonest, and sad.

 

I'd be a billionaire if I had a dime fire every time I heard somebody whine and cry about gay people "shoving their sexuality in other people's faces" without providing a single instance if this occurring.

Wanting equality? My God I'm about to lose my lunch. People that want to be treated equally going all around trying to get equal treatment what can't they just die?

Probably better than the sicko that wants them to be abused and shuffled around in foster care. A person wanting to adopt a child and that person passing all the stringent evaluations actually doing so? Oh the horror.

Or I can ridicule you fire crying and whining about imaginary problems.

 

Actually that's incorrect. Here is proof.

http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/HTML/facts_molestation.html

Yes. This is copied from the article linked.

Incorrect. Here is the proof from the linked article.

The irony is palpable.

I have proven you are the one being dishonest with research

So you are clearly posturing.

 

Wrong. (Stop lying. You are only making things worse for everyone by doing that.)

 

Some simply intend to vilify homosexual people; they'll say anything.

 

It's kind of desperate and pathetic

 

Yes... it surely is!

 

Sometimes it's worse than pathetic. Some posters come across as not only repulsed by homosexuality but absolutely obsessed if not fascinated with it.

 

But they didn't lose tax exempt status. Maybe some called for that, but most probably not. Churches can perform whichever weddings they want. My church used to only do them for members, now only if the pastor feels comfortable with the couple after meeting with them several times. He can turn down anyone.

True, but the bible cake had anti gay versus on it. They specifically chose those to see if someone would do it and to provoke an argument. The lesbians just wanted a wedding cake. It didn't need to say "lesbian lovers" all over it.

True, but a high power job with a lot of exposure sometimes restricts political involvement. He did donate to Prop 8 which could attract negative attention for the company. Seems like he's allowed to donate to prop 8, but the company is allowed to can him if it's going to attract negative attention.

I didn't say revenge, I said there's little pity, there's a difference. As a lesbian I don't actively try to make evangelicals feel attacked, but when one is and he starts whining and crying about it, I think to myself "you kinda deserve that." People like Fred Phelps who actively try to hurt gays with his words and actions, let's just say I didn't weep when he died.

Freedom of speech comes with consequences. Donating to Prop 8 could draw negative PR to the company so I can understand them letting him go.

I'm unfamiliar with this one, but no one deserves to have their life threatened.

As is the list of gays who have been targeted by Christians.

You're forgetting that many gay people are also Christian. I myself am still a member of a Methodist church, donate every month, play in our handbell choir, chair a committee and used to be a youth leader. What hurts is that conservative Christians talk about gay people as if we're others. Separate. Gay people can be and are Christians in many cases. Gays don't care that people are Christians, we just don't want to be told we're less than. That we're sinners right along side murders and robbers. That there's something wrong with us. That our love is less worthy in the eyes of God. That even though we live lives Jesus would celebrate, we're still doomed to hell just because of who we love. People who make others feel that way are doing Christian wrong. Jesus loved everyone for who they were. He didn't try to change people, make them feel less than him or doom them to hell. He accepted, embraced and loved everyone just the way they were. No exceptions.

 

Ya when straight identified sex-deprived priests are around little boys it does drive that number up. You do realized those sorts of cases add a ton to same sex assaults right?

 

Sorry, but your liberal pseudo-science cannot imagine a new understanding for what a homosexual act is, or what a homosexual now "is."

I use the common meaning of the word, as I have already given, and clearly defines any male on male rape as a homosexual act done by a homosexual.

Gays male and female are more likely to rape and sexually assault others:

46.4% lesbians, 74.9% bisexual women and 43.3% heterosexual women reported sexual violence other than rape during their lifetimes, while 40.2% gay men, 47.4% bisexual men and 20.8% heterosexual men reported sexual violence other than rape during their lifetimes.

96% of people who sexually abuse children are male, and 76.8% of people who sexually abuse children are adults.

The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering,” said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence. “Abel’s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls.”


Research on the homosexual lifestyle confirms it is almost exclusively a youth-oriented culture,” Baldwin wrote. “Very few gays exhibit preference for older men.”

“Some admit to focus on teenage boys,” he said, “some on prepubescent boys, and many cross over between categories.”

A 1988 study detailed in Baldwin’s report found that most pedophiles even consider themselves to be “gay.” According to the study, “Archives of Sexual Behavior,” some 86 percent of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual. Also, the study found, the number of teenage male prostitutes who identify as homosexuals has risen from 10 percent to 60 percent in the past 15 years.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/#1UqL0ohfrPHQ0dAb.99

 

Most of the rapes of children are done by men to girls- between 69-90% of child molestation is done by men to girls.
The rest is by men to boys.
Women statistically molest almost no children.

A far more accurate statement is that men are far more likely to molest children than any woman.

As far as whether the men doing the raping are 'heterosexual' or 'homosexual'- a percentage of pedophiles are not sexually attracted to any adults. Some of the child molesters molest both boys and girls.

As a heterosexual man- I really don't consider someone who rapes little girls to be a heterosexual- I consider him to be a monster- a child molester- a pedophile.

As far 'proof'- sure

http://www.drryanhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

This is one of the most authoritative articles on child molestation that I have read- I don't expect you will bother to read it. The authors make a point of distinguishing between 'homosexuals' and 'homosexual pedophiles'- because, as shown by the horrible case of Coach Sandusky- a child molester can be openly heterosexual- and raping little boys.

"Society does not need to create environments for gay men to rape boys in their own homes. "

Since 3/4 of the rapes as you noted, are of little girls- why are you okay with a society that creates an environment for 'straight men' to rape girls in their own homes?- I mean if you believe that crap?

Statistically- any man is more of a threat to any child- than any woman.

If your desire was actually to protect children from the threat of child molestation in the home- you would prefer any home with two lesbian parents over any home with any adult male in the house.

I mean if your desire was actually to protect children from sexual molestation.

 

I am only stating obvious fact. Females rarely rape boys. Males do virtually all the rapes making them automatically homosexual acts.

Homosexual acts are enacted by homosexuals/bisexuals or what ever else you want to define them as.

Thinking homosexuality is a "sexual orientation" is just an unproven theory at best, and political nonsense in reality.

 

So no studies showing that homosexuals adopting lead to a higher prevalence of molestations as per you claim? Just making sure you knew you were full of (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

I was just stating my understanding of the statistics of who is doing what to who.

ALL pedophiles convicted with overwhelming evidence, DNA, video or otherwise, should be put to death. That's for someone over 17 raping an obvious pre-pub child under 12.

I would prefer only married heterosexual couples of good moral standing to adopt children. However, such couples are almost non-existent in so may urban wastelands.

In my office, I see couple of obvious lesbians, maybe married, or who-knows, that bring in several kids to be checked that are under their legal charge. I assume the child welfare/protection agencies use them because they can't find enough traditional families to take care of their hard-luck child cases.

Not the best thing for the kids being raised by lesbians---but that's not my call. At least I haven't had any obvious gay males bringing in young boys they have adopted----as I don't think that's allowed in my state.

I'd rather keep them in an orphanage or boy's/girls ranch ran by strict Christians---as that would be safer.