France goes to the wrong direction, and nothing is happening...

Hello everyone,

I would like to ask something about the country where I live.

I explain, since 6th May, here in France, we have destroyed our futur. In deed, the 6th May, the socialist, François Hollande, won the presidential election, then the 17th June, socialists won the national assembly.

Today, there are two Frances. There is a France where people voted for socialists (in North and West), and there is the "France Forte", the France where people voted for our President, the conservative UMP Nicolas Sarkozy (the South and the East). There is a big gap between these two Frances.

Nowaday, the socialist governement create a new tax nearly every day. We are afraid here, on the French Rivieira (here we voted Nicolas Sarkozy with 67%, the national record).
According to poll, people know that their country goes in to the wrong direction.

I would like to ask to you, how France is seen from foreign, and what do you feel about the direction about France ?

Thank you !

 

Moi ce que je pense est que vous avez été un collabo de Sarkozy surement dans les jeunesses sarkoziennes , et que si vous recherchez bien dans le passé de votre famille il y a eu sans doute des gens de votre famille miliciens au service de Vichy et de pétain

Je ne vous salue pas monsieur

 

Not sure I have thought it through, but the direction of France is what the left here in America want to take us. It will be an interesting experiment in contrast.

 

for those that can't speak french... complement of Google translator

http://translate.google.com

 

So tell us, what is it you fear that 67+ percent of your country does not

or is it general fear of change?


if as countries we can not find a way to find everyone a job that wants one, now with new robotic assembly and foreign outsourcing, I am sure your country wont be the first or last needing to change

we may be getting so efficient that service jobs and government jobs will be all that remains for the common folk and only so many of those can be created, what do we do for the rest without a job?

it's a tough predicament, but one many countries will need to address, whats left? endless wars? build a pyramid or two maybe? space colonization?


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Some response that.

Were you a supporter of Senator Joseph McCarthy?

With regard to the OP, I see France as a corrupt nation, whoever holds the Presidency. France is best at what French people want - looking after France, whichever party is in power. It's swings and roundabouts, come the next election the Presidency will revert.

 

About corruption , if I was you an us people I will be more caution in my jugements ^^

Whatever , We have had the skin of Sarkozy , its the good point , we have now just to wait for the french justice to make its job properly and to put him in jail


You in USA you have had Bush and co to ruin USA completly in 2 mandates , us in France we have ousted the "nabot" after 5 years we have still a small chance for France to rise again

 

Personally i think hollande is a moron who will destroy france (and take the rest of us with you).

And i do blame the french, instead of fixing the problem you chose to pretend that you can just make it a rich peoples problem. Thats a mistake that we will all pay a heavy price for.

 

Hollandre won , deal with it .
I think 75% tax for the leeches is too low , it should be 95%.

 

We all pay a heavy price for the super dooper rich and their tax dodging. About 92,000 of them that is only 0.001% are hoarding around $21trillion in sneaky off shore tax avoidance havens. That is more than all the tax paid in the US and Japan.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18944097

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/21/global-elite-tax-offshore-economy

Hollande is on the right track. Time to get these scum bags contributing to society like everyone else - and all the other super rich who currently pay no tax through other methods of avoidance.

You really need to learn the difference between allowing people the opportunity to start up businesses which will be a benefit to the community and the tax dodging of the Super Rich.

 

Have you forgotten that your conservative government was to raise the VAT. The new government cancelled it.

Also we can compare what was the road of Sarkozy comparing with your neighbours of the south, and oh wait, they are raising every taxes also the VAT, yeah the conservative party the one that shares the ideology of Sarkozy.

I think that France is doing the right, and the things can be done differently from what is proposed from the conservative and neoliberal governments like the German.

Let's see in a year/two if this solutions fail or not, but the difference is that we know for sure that the solutions proposed by the conservative party will fail for sure and make poorer the people. Like we've seen in Greece, Portugal or Spain where the trust of the markets is going down every day, normal.

 

Yeah, and is their problem. They are the ones that caused all this. Not of the workers. And poor people, and I think that you prefer the Spanish solution where are the poors the ones that must pay, while the rich have all the advantages.

 

I am sure that France will go better than the ones that are applying the right policies: Greece, Portugal and Spain because the austerity is taking us to bankrupcy.

And the only option in these countries to save ourselves is Revolution.

 

Im always amazed at how people who have never accomplished anything in their lifes call those who have "leeches".

The reason why they are rich is because they got off their ass and did something with their life. And frankly, i dont blame them for the tax evasion. The logic behind high taxes in the west is stealing rich peoples money because envious loosers like you think they have too much. Why would they accept that? Ofcourse they dont. No individual should have to accept that his private property can be stolen just because someone else is too lazy to earn his own (*)(*)(*)(*) money.

And dont give me that crap about "fairness" or "helping the poor" it has nothing to do with it.

 

Yes , exploiting others
Fantastic achievement !

The idea that you can be rich while others are starving is wrong, let me remind you what happen in Tsarist Russia about 100 years ago, do you think all those poor , illiterate, hungry peasants have read the Capital before start slaughtering down aristocrats ?

Property is theft
Profit is a crime

Capitalists are now warned.

 

Hollande is a disaster for France; I love my country very much, but now, if I was rich I would leave France; the government must encourage people who work and make success, because that they are great for the country, not people who don't work and are inutil for the country. Hollande will fire all the people who are well for the country and he want admit a lot of poor immigrants to... There's a problem in his reasoning, really...
Some people in this country earn more money if they don't work, with the help, than if they work... That's really so ridicul...

His programme is so stupid that I'm sure he don't believe one himself...

 

I am tired of the nonsense of work. If you are rich, you can have become rich without working. And most of the working people have the just incomings, and to them is the people that government protects.

 

Rich without work? I don't think so... Even if you're rich because that your parents are, you can easly destroy their fortune. If a people is rich, he deserve it in the bigest majority of the case.
And that's not with a country of welfare recipients that we will make a country strong...

 

Exploiting? Starving? What the hell are you talking about? Europeans are showered with all kinds of useless government services. There are no poor people in Europe (some mediterranean countries form an exception but thats because they've destroyed their countries with socialism and now is the time to pay)

Instead of being such a whiny little (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) go out there and build your own company. If its that easy then you shouldnt have a problem with it.

 

If its that easy, then why arent you rich?

 

Tell me , are you of the same family as Jen's ?

How dare you use as avatar the cross of Charles de Gaulles during the WW2 , which mean resistance against the Nazi facism and US imperialism and post shyttish stupidities ???

Dont you know that at a time , the US gov was prefering Pétain to de Gaulle and after Giraud to De Gaulle ?
http://www.canalacademie.com/ida393-De-Gaulle-et-Giraud-l-affrontement-1942-1944.html

Are you from the nuts of the sarkozistes jeunesses who vandalize cars in parkings just before each election in france , like I have seen in my underground parking building ?

All of what I have to say is with Hollande France has still a change to rise up , with Sarko dit "petite crotte" ou dit "petit bu(*)(*)(*)(*)" we were sure to go bankrupt as USA thanks to Bush and co

To end my post dear Clarisse , I am pretty sure that if the General de Gaulle was still alive he will slam you in your face just by the fact that you defend the UMP which represent with copé just the reverse of what he has fought against during all his beautifull live

Sur ce je vous salue pas Madame le Pen

 

Sore losers, these French Right-Wingers. But I applaud their courage to come whine on a US forum. Makes my day

 

Well , no much to say , you are right on all the points!

Happy to see at last someone who know well what is really going on in Europe

Just a point , I must say that when the German President Merkel aka "Piggy la cochone" has to bow to Hollande on the croissance pack , I have been more than pleased , twas a great day to remember , the European Medef lowering down their pants , hahahaha ^^

 

Sorry, but with more rich and less middle class like in the Aristocratic times of Luis XVI are not the solution And if you like that, I hope that French and rest of worker people of the world react and revive sir Guillotine

 

If you were more attentive you would have noticed that my residence is in Quebec and not the USA.

That's caution!