Fulton grand jury to hear Trump case early next week

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  1. sec

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    because a Democrat "won" , that is what is wrong with asking
     
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    I doubt he would no that. He has a country to repair. BUT. It would be sweet justice if he decided to "special prosecute" his persecutors into bankruptcy, prison, or kicked out of the whorehose called the Bar Association.
    There is no justice or impartiality here. Only a lawyer can claim that - when he is paid to, of course.
     
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    Not what Trump believed and challenges to election results are entirely legal you know.
     
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    If I believed the fantasies you quoted, I'd keep it to myself.
     
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    Bullshit, top to bottom.
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    And "reportedly" means alleged. If local election officials do not have authorized access to their own voting machines then who does? Let's see the law and where it says they are prohibited from letting others, especially the legal representatives of a campaign, from inspecting them.

    There is nothing that says the Trump campaign asked to be invited in fact the invite seems out of the blue and if a government official in charge of something say come see then one can assume they have the proper authority to let you come see. If anyone is in any trouble here it would be the local election officials and that remains a big IF with this sudden new development that has taken over two years for this AG to dream up.
     
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    Quote from the transcript, in full, the request the SecState engage in an act of sedition. Where Trump or any of his representatives engaged in an act of sedition. If there was sedition then why didn't Smith charge Trump with sedition? Since when did challenges to election results become sedition at all?
     
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    Not if he disagrees with them and believe he has evidence otherwise but show me where the law says that. When the bank tells you you're broke and you believe you have cash in the bank and deposit sips to show it you can demand the audit and prove it.
     
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    And Trump was told by other election officials there were irregularities and that there were tens of thousands of ballots with no signature verification and he was asking the SecState to do a forensic audit on those ballots and they would be found. Nothing illegal. And I note you could not post where he made an illegal request of the SecState. The whole point is Trump wanted those forensic audits ASAP and nothing undue about it the SecState turned them down. None of your arguments hold water because you can't show what you claim.
     
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    I'm not the one claiming a future POUTS (typo that actually works for Trump) will somehow limit the number of people employed in a non government profession...

    So perhaps you should consider your own advice?
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wasn't it?? Holy Moly....
     
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    That analogy doesn't work in this case. Trump was a thorn in the side to DC status quo. From the day he was elected there was much done to subvert any of his efforts and to cripple his administration. There was no way Trump was going to win 2020 even if he received 200 million votes; Biden would have received 210 million votes.

    DC needed one of their own back in the WH and who better than someone who has been in politics his entire adult life. They needed someone in the WH who could be controlled just like they had with Obama and Bush.
     
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    This moron really has no clue what's coming down the pike.... he's convinced himself that only things done BEFORE the election count as tampering...

    Tee Hee...

    SNIP
    “No, I didn’t tamper with the election! Those who rigged & stole the election were the ones doing the tampering, & they are the slime that should be prosecuted,” he said in a post.

    “Would someone please tell the Fulton County grand jury that I did not tamper with the election,” he said in another post.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-didn-t-tamper-135446337.html
     
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    we will see soon what the grand jury thinks.
     
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    Always a conspiracy theory to explain RW failures and crimes.
     
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    If he genuinely thought state election law had not been followed the correct thing to do was file a lawsuit. Ask for an emergency injunction. Bring his evidence of irregularities.

    Pressuring state officials to “find” votes outside the proper procedure was not the right thing. And may have been illegal.
     
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    They did go read the transcript.

    Quote Trump or his advisers asking him to find votes in his favor to give him the win.

    "Just as the Times did in its article yesterday, Willis falsely stated that during Trump’s conversation with Raffensperger, the then-president requested that “the Secretary ‘find 11,780 votes’ in the former President’s favor.”

    But as I’ve been forced to detail time and again because the corrupt media continue to lie about the conversation, the transcript of the call established that Trump “did not request that Raffensperger ‘find 11,780 votes.’ Period. It never happened.” Rather, during that “telephone conversation between Trump’s legal team and the Secretary of State’s office, Trump’s lawyer explained to Raffensperger that ‘the court is not acting on our petition. They haven’t even assigned a judge.’” "
    https://thefederalist.com/2023/02/2...ly-confirms-the-recommended-charges-are-bunk/
     
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    I was pointing the folly of the other posters strained analogy.
     
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    It's YOUR claim back it up.
     
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    The correct way was through the courts. Not pressuring state officials to bypass the rules.
     
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    It's a long list. Would need to read the letter of the law on most of them and know what evidence they have. "(xv) Article 4 of Chapter 10 of this title and Code Sections 16-10-20, 16-10-23, and 16-10-91, relating to perjury and other falsifications;" seems like a good candidate, though. And maybe the computer system protection one. There's quite a few I couldn't eliminate based upon the title alone. I guess we could eliminate payday loans without reading it.
     
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    no conspiracy at all but feel free to say it. The 2020 election results were a foregone conclusion before 1 vote was cast. It is what it is and shame on Trump and his loyal supporters if they didn't realize in advance that it was all over.

    It's time to let it go and focus more on how DC can be so corrupt yet we continue to vote for status quo.
     
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    It'll be reassuring to see a jury of Trump's peers dispassionately assessing the documented evidence and sworn testimony against him, and determining what indictments are in order.

    Loser Trump's whining victimhood and hysterically vilifying district attorneys, special counsels, attorneys general, and judges will still be his preferred substitute for attempting to refute the substance of whatever charges he faces in court regarding his multiple efforts to sabotage the certified will of the People in 2020.

    His devoted worshipers find litigious matters taxing, and enjoy his alternative shtick immensely.

    As Trump and his co-conspirators squirm, I would not be surprised if they throw whacky Sydney Powell under the proverbial but in a futile attempt to save themselves.

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    Yah, that’s a very vast conspiracy.. trump lost because he made no effort to appeal to anyone who didn’t vote for him. Made sure you either loved him or hated him. Let’s not pretend he was all that popular the first time, where he got fewer votes than another very unlikable candidate.
     
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    This blatant witness intimidation tweet from our former POUTS has already been discussed elsewhere, but it needs to be in this Georgia thread

    SNIP
    “I am reading reports that failed former Lt. Governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury,” Trump posted to Truth Social. “He shouldn’t.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-blatantly-unlawful-tantrum-georgia-163143248.html

    I have no real problem with his generic "If you come after me, I'm coming after you" bullshit, but when you start naming witnesses testifying the same day, there is zero chance you can't convince me this isn't jailable the second he is indicted... apparently Georgia law is more strict on this than Federal or NY law...
     

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