"Get rid of the ballots..........."

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it's sad to see what Trump has done to the Republican Party
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is one scheme to steal the election being considered by Trumpleton's.

    "In Pennsylvania, three Republican leaders told me they had already discussed the direct appointment of electors among themselves (circumventing the popular vote by having the legislature determine the EC electors), and one said he had discussed it with Trump’s national campaign.

    “I’ve mentioned it to them, and I hope they’re thinking about it too,” Lawrence Tabas, the Pennsylvania Republican Party’s chairman, told me. “I just don’t think this is the right time for me to be discussing those strategies and approaches, but [direct appointment of electors] is one of the options."
     
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    https://www.ncspin.com/elections-bo...nates-signature-matching-for-absentee-ballots


    1.No Signature Verification

    County boards shall accept the voter’s signature on the container-return envelope if it appears to be made by the voter, meaning the signature on the envelope appears to be the name of the voter and not some other person. Absent clear evidence to the contrary, the county board shall presume that the voter’s signature is that of the voter, even if the signature is illegible. A voter may sign their signature or make their mark.

    The law does not require that the voter’s signature on the envelope be compared with the voter’s signature in their registration record. Verification of the voter’s identity is completed through the witness requirement. See also Numbered Memo 2020-15, which explains that signature comparison is not permissible for absentee request forms.
     
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  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So.......regarding absentee ballots in NC..............County boards shall accept the voter’s signature on the container-return envelope if it appears to be made by the voter............meaning signatures are checked.

    Thanks.
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A Ohio election scholar has mapped the ripple effects if Repub legislators were to appoint Trump electors in defiance of the vote in states like PA and MI. The Dem governors would respond by certifying the official count, a routine exercise of their authority, and then would argue that legislators could not lawfully choose different electors after the vote had taken place. This has the potential to be a chaotic situation which is exactly what Trump is trying to create.
     
  6. TheImmortal

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    No it doesn’t lol. It means if the voters name is what’s on the form. The signature is NOT matched. That’s the ENTIRE point lol
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The long and the short of this is nothing is outside the realm of possibility with Trump and a compliant POT, formerly GOP.

    He is telling everyone in no uncertain terms that unless the election goes his way he will not concede.
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any idea how many absentee ballots are being issued in NC?

    Never mind.

    Those issues are already playing out in North Carolina, one of the two states where early voting has begun. While the numbers are very preliminary since early voting began on September 4, about 2% of the roughly 10,000 absentee ballots returned as of Friday had been rejected because of some issue, including potential signature problems, according to data from the state's board of elections.
    That rejection rate was higher for Black voters, however, at nearly 7%. Voters in the state whose ballots are invalidated will be sent a new mail-in ballot.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/election-2020-ballot-signature-mismatches/index.html

    Sounds like they have a handle on things.
     
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    No what he’s saying is he wants a fair election and if he doesn’t get one he won’t concede. And he shouldn’t.

    Donald Trump will win by a LANDSLIDE on election night. Then the democrats are going to “find” millions of votes in the next couple weeks because they’re CHEATING.
     
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    As of the end of September there were nearly 700,000 issued. At the same time in 2016 there were 38,000 issued. That’s THIRTY TWO percent of the total votes in 2016.

    The dems are doing everything in their power to cheat.
     
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    Irrelevant. Voter signature fraud is extremely rare. And when there is, easy to trace and punish the culprit. Any ballot can be appealed. Here in Florida, even though there is strong signature verification, there are many groups on both sides that are dedicated to analyzing each and every ballot, and appealing any questionable ones. Any sort of signature fraud that would change the result of a Presidential election is nothing short of impossible.

    The only one who has called his voters to commit voter fraud is Trump. And he did it publicly. And then announced that he would not commit to a peaceful transition of power but instead, without even waiting to see the results, would appeal to the Supreme Court.

    Shameful!
     
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  12. Lee Atwater

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    "House GOP Conference Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), one of the few Republicans willing to publicly rebuke the president, said Thursday that transferring power “is enshrined in our Constitution and fundamental survival of our Republic” and vowed that American leaders would uphold their oath to the Constitution. Rep. Steve Stivers (R-Ohio), a former chair of the House Republicans’ campaign arm, echoed her remarks."
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/24/gop-peaceful-power-transfer-421025

    Unfortunately, as we learned after Ginsburg's passing, nothing these Repubs say can be trusted.
     
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    How exactly do you plan to identify them if you’re not verifying signatures?
     
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    Please prove to me that the issuance of more absentee ballots (700K being a number you have not substantiated) means Dems are cheating. So far you've offered zero evidence of such.
     
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    Furthermore the number of mail in ballots has increased by nearly 20x the amount

    even a democrat has to admit, if he’s honest, that creates a MUCH larger opportunity for fraud
     
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    Only if you believe Trump's lies about mail-in ballots.
     
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    No it’s about not believing the dems bs about needing to have mass mail in voting
     
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    News flash. Ballots are not counted when you receive them

    In your case, I would say at least two things. 1- The likelihood you'll end up in prison is far greater than having that voted count. 2- Because one vote would not overturn an election. For most other people there is a third: the fact that they believe in Democracy and that this country's electoral system should be protected (a.k.a. patriotism)

    Because she's dead! If you decide to try it, please see if you can get access to a computer when you're in prison and do say hi to us.
     
  22. Lee Atwater

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    So.......you don't think voters should have the option to vote by mail over concerns about COVID?
     
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    I’ll ask you again. If she’s on the voter rolls and they don’t check signature verification, how will they find out?
     
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    Absolutely not. There’s absolutely zero justification to have mass mail in for a virus with a .4% death rate. None. Whatsoever.
     
  25. Lee Atwater

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    Maybe you should call them. But don't worry, they verify signatures.
     

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