God smites the Steelers

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  1. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    And there has been far too much death and destruction in human history due to this religious nonsense.

    I’ve yet to see faith build any buildings, but I sure have seen faith take them down.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Oh I think it depends on what the faith is and how far people taker it.

    If a book says it is alright to kill infidels, that is obviously a problem. It does not matter how it is rationalized, what matters is that is is there. There are benign faiths, and good majority of people who are faithful, who don't kill anyone.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Doctors Without Boarders is an excellent example. Last month there was a movement on Reddit to donate to Dw/oB and r/atheism actually donated more than r/Christianity.
     
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    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    So much for V8rider assertions :rolleyes:
     
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    V8rider New Member

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    Prove that please.

    And my assertion still stands regarding community outreach in Anytown, USA.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    There are more Christians and they are more organized than atheists.

    So they fact they donate more should be obvious.
     
  7. montra

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    So first, it was foolish to think that Tebow helps those in need more than the average atheist. Then when provided examples, it is because people like him feel forced into helping others because they fear going to hell. Then you claim that Christians are simply more organized than atheists.

    I have not heard this many excuses since the OJ trial. Pathetic. Why not get out there and make yourself useful?
     
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    As I have pointed out, those of faith give more of their time and money to those in need than those who are not of faith.

    As a Christian, I follow the examples of Christ. I have yet to see someone who follows the example of Christ take a building down, but I have seen them help build them.

    Face it, the world is a better place because of the example of one Jesus Christ. If not, then what exactly did he do that made the world a worse place to live in?
     
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    God didnt smite the Steelers its was an illegal play by Tebow and company that did. And I am glad considering how the Steelers cheeted their way to a superbowl win against Seattle a few years ago.

    What goes around comes around :twisted:
     
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    If God has chosen Tim as his emmissary, why has he given him such meager football skills?

    It's a conundrum.

    LOL.
     
  11. montra

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    I guess that makes winning two Hiesmans that much more of a miracle.

    In fact, God has a tendency to use "weak" individuals. King david is an example. He was a small lad who faced off with Goliath. Then you had Moses who stuttered so bad he insisted his brother Aaron speak for him and was called the meakest man in the world. I suppose it highlights the power of God if you ask me.
     
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    LIGHTEN UP!!!!!!!

    It's a joke. He won one Heisman, two college championships. His skills don't make him a pro. His stats suck.

    But you're right. God can use anyone, I guess.
    David was also a murderer and an adulterer to boot!
     
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    You don't get out much do you?

    History of the Army of God

    And about these teachings....Have you ever meeet this suppose jesus christ? Have you ever read anything that this jesus christ personally wrote?
     
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    When they lose to the patriots you will see a familiar Tebow

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myNyMP9ddrg&feature=related"]Tim Tebow CRYING like a little girl after losing to Alabama in SEC championship game - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    I was very involved with taking food and clothing to the projects in my town for many years. I knew every housing project and got to know many of the people there by their names. I did it because I could. Because I was more fortunate than those people and enjoyed seeing their faces light up when we came to visit. Not that it matters what m reasons were. Poor people were getting help. For you to judge anyone's motives is atrocious. Do you know Tebow personally? Has he told you he helps people so that he won't go to hell?

    Seems you're just one of those keyboard cowboys who does nothing but beotch and complain about everyone else.

    When is the last time YOU did anything to help anyone, for ANY reason?

    It's one thing to say you're an atheist and just don't believe, but you're like the ayhole biker who beats up little kids and gives all bikers a bad rap. Didn't your mama ever teach you if you don't have anything good to say, just ****!?
     
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    I would actually suggest a refresher on reading comprehension.

    I don't remember claiming that people will go to hell if they don't donate. It is obvious that religious donate more than secularists. It is only in your mind that people are denying this. However, there are plenty of secular charities, and they do indeed donate.

    You changed the focus of the debate. Instead of addressing the Problem of Evil, you wish to point out the obvious. Your position changed from god has Teebow help people (violation of free will, you contradict your own beliefs in just one post, congratulations) to "if people believe in god they help more people, how is that a bad thing?". Two very different positions.

    So Teebow helps a relative few people. Big whoop. 26,000 will still starve today because your "loving god" is either wishes them to suffer or is unable to stop their suffering. So how about you make yourself scarce if you choose to use more red herrings and strawmen?
     
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    Where exactly does Christ command his followers to smite abortionists or anyone else for that matter?

    I'll give you a hint, he does not!! So placing this at his feet is absurd.

    I will say it again, the world is a much better place for him being here.
     
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    Put yourself in God's position. Here is someone who derides him for not helping to feed the poor when the person in question does nothing himself.

    God actually commands his followers to help the poor, so he has addressed this issue. I suppose we should have God do everything for us, eh?
     
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    Meh, standard cop out. You do not know what I do and don't do for others. Simple a Red Herring to avoid addressing the issue (a standard theist tactic when they realize their idea of god contradicts reality and leaves their god as either pure evil or utterly incompetent). Your point is wholly irrelevant. I not asking a higher power to do good for me, I am asking you why a loving god would leave 26,000 to starve to death by the end of the day.

    Your description of a god desiring that people do his work is indistinguishable from a godless world. My point of living a life by virtue stands, and yours fails to the lack of evidence to suggest divine intervention.


    The Problem of Evil
    God exists.
    God is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good.
    A perfectly good being would want to prevent all evils.
    An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence.
    An omnipotent being, who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.
    A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.
    If there exists an omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good being, then no evil exists.
    Evil exists (logical contradiction).
     
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    You assume that evil exists. Evil is referred to as "darkness" in the Bible. So tell us, does darnkness exist? It does not, rather, it merely is a term to describe the lack of light which DOES exist.
     
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    Please share that scripture.

    Nothing new there. The bible is full of scripture reaffirming that. Physically and metaphorically.
     
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    If evil is the absence of 'god' then how can god be omnipresent?
     
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    If God is all powerful he is free to "withdraw" himself, which he has done a number of times Biblically.
     
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    John 8:12 is but one of many.
     
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    How does that say that evil = darkness?

    Try again?
     

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