HHS estimates coronavirus mortality rate at 0.1%-1%

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  1. Idahojunebug77

    Idahojunebug77 Well-Known Member

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    So you agree with Trump. The mortality rate for COVID-19 is far lower than is commonly stated.
     
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    Well the 3.4% figure was entirely accurate for the figures it was specifically identified as measuring by the WHO (number of confirmed infections and number of confirmed deaths worldwide). It is distinct from any wider estimates of the overall mortality rate relying on a "hunch" about the number of unreported infections. Both sets of figures can be correct and valid in context. Calling it a "false number" was factually wrong, though I suspect that was largely due to his ignorance of the specifics rather than anything malicious.
     
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    Diamond Princess. Closed environment, 705 infected 6 deaths. Adjust for the skewed age of cruise ship population and perhaps terminal patients on their bucket list vacation among the fatalities and you've got the event and numbers most scientists in the field are using. Read current papers on same, they are available.

    Case fatality rate. It's a forever unknown number unless you are God. It's use is political and just as meaningless.

    The better, more precise and meaningful number is infected case fatality rate, measured at hospital admission.

    Think!
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The London metro area has about 15 million people. Visualize that many people dead in an area that size and compare it to the rest of the world.
     
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    Again, Diamond Princess. Closed environment, 705 infected 6 deaths.
     
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    15 million people are not going to die of this.
     
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    Viruses and bacteria are essential agents in our evolution. We wouldn't exist in our current form without them. Who knows how this virus will affect our evolution?
     
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    So. Those are also accurate figures (presumably) but they're in a different context.
     
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    Rugglestx, a suggestion: be quiet. Old people need to be protected, and, yes, nursing and old folks and retirement centers will be killing grounds if the virus can get in them. Be careful.
     
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    I'll ask if I want suggestions from you. But no need to check you PM often...or ever. :)
     
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    The good news is that only one thing will kill you. If you avoid that you might live forever.
     
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    Meaningless right? 11 million humans have died this year already. That'll be about 70 million at the end of the year.

    Need a visual. Will the bodies fill Meteor Crater in Arizona?
     
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    Life?
     
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    Do you not get the difference between 'confirmed cases' and 'likely many more people infected'?

    I'd learn the difference before making anymore false statements as you did here.
     
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    If you are older than 38 years old then you have already exceeded your basic warranty.

    Humans have a natural lifespan of only 38 years - but our life expectancy has more than DOUBLED over the centuries thanks to lifestyle changes and advances in medicine
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...mans-genetically-hardwired-live-38-YEARS.html
     
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    They have been killing grounds
     
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    Will the dead get autopsies to verify the cause of death? Just put the number of dead down at 9,637 world-wide.
     
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    Yes they will do autopsies. They already do to the 7000+ Americans when needed who die daily. They can handle these deaths as well.
     
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    How are they in a different context? They are a somewhat random selection of folks sharing an isolated space.

    There is likely an age discrepancy favoring elderly to children relative to the genereral population, but that is about all, and that discrepancy would favor a slightly higher mortality rate on the ship.
     
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    You missed the point because you want the screech about Trump.

    When he clouds all that you know, you will be easily deceived
     
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    Suppose you are a virus pathogen designer by profession, a scientist of great ability, and are given this assignment by your boss:

    Design a virus that will spare the infants and the youth, that will have very little effect on healthy people, but will kill the unhealthy old, the obese, the homeless, and the junkies.

    You put a vial of COVID-19 on the bosse's desk as fast as you can make it.
     
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    Whether he was being honest here is irrelevant to the fact that he is a ****ing moron who directly contradicted a WHO conclusion based on a hunch because he wants to downplay the threat posed by the virus.
     
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    Commonly stated? No.

    The exact mortality rate is unknown and the reported number currently may be higher than the actual rate, bit I think it trump is a ****ing moron to go out, as president, and declare the reported number is a false number based on a hunch.
     
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    So essentially, you'd like to see him inflate the numbers and send this country into a panic.. WOW you're a lot of fun ;)
     
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