History, for our "gun grabbing" friends...

Resorting to fallacy for their Cause is always something of a sign, omen, and portent for me.

 

More doubletalk?

 

well, I'm not the one standing around wringing my hands stating how terrified I am of firearms. that'd be you. I know my Rights and your not one of them, so little I care about your and your little family.............
let's examine that stupid statement about confiscation. You are lying if you say no country that has enacted "gun control'" has never proceeded with confiscation. If you have to get permission from the government to exercise your Rights, they are not Rights. As in the case of your beloved Australia, the land that is so near and dear to your heart. They took all the guns away. period. Now you have to go to the government to get permission to actively target shoot (competition), hold a slingshot. bb guns, knives longer than 1 inch, birthday party blessings from the state, and this is perfect government....and you're trying to convince that bending to the wishes of government is better than remaining independent, and you think that just because you say it is so, it is so. Some of us want to remain independent and self-reliant, not dependent upon a corrupt and out of control government. By your own admission, you do not trust the government, yet you want to force feed the rest of us to think and function lockstep to your wishes and demands, by the same government YOU don't trust? buggar off, mate...........
BTW, Why won't Australia let you immigrate there? Criminal record perhaps?

 

Only if you don't care enough about your Cause to even make an attempt to understand the issues.

 

This is a common error all over the spectrum and is enforced by the nicey-nice Netiquette Nannies. Moderate, impersonal terms like "gun control" illegitimately anoint themselves with superior intelligence. Who wants anything out of control? So opponents have just as much right to express what they think is really going on by using a pejorative and personal term.

 

it is no difference than you blaming someone who wasn't there. As a matter of fact, you are looking to deprive Americans, all Americans of their 2nd A right, having done nothing at all. I think that is insane.

 

Why such a big issue with weapons that can easily be converted to Class III?

 

The ONLY issue is the people having the right,regardless of the militia.,

 

That is already secured in State Constitutions regarding inalienable or indefeasible rights in private property, including the class called Arms.

 

Join the party.....iggy is sometimes the only way to address the irrelevant

 

Only well regulated Parts of the Militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment to keep and bear Arms, in Order to infringe upon civil persons in their privileges and immunities from doing the same, To ensure the security of a free State.

 

Actually, you are the one stating that you are terrified of other people with guns (or a impending invasion, or black helicoptors, or a zombie apocolypse...).
You're constantly talking about your need to "defend yourself" from one or more of these things. I'm the one saying your fear is irrational.

I'm not one of your rights? What does that even mean? and why did you suddenly start talking like Yoda?

Is that what I said? I'm pretty sure I just said that there have been a number of first-world democracies who have implemented registration and not implemented confiscation, and that jumping to the conclusion that we're not as democratic as those countries is faulty.

Are you aware that you need a permit to hold a public demonstration on public land? Where's your outrage over that?

Actually, there are more firearms LEGALLY circulating in Australia now than there were prior to registration. Nice try.

When did I say anything about a "perfect government"?
Are you saying you can't be independent if the government attempts to prevent Americans from killing each other (accidentally or otherwise)?

How does ensuring that lawful owners actually know how to use firearms prevent you from being self reliant?
How does closing loopholes used by criminals to obtain firearms prevent you from being self reliant?

Fishing much?

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Have I said guns should be banned, or have I said that lawful owners should actually know how to use their firearms?
Your inability to seperate these two concepts is insane.

 

Agreed that words are powerful and the "gun-grabber" pejorative is an example. "Gun control" - well, don't know if it is meant to sound superior, but seems to me to be neutral and a reasonable descriptor. But then I could be accused of being biased and therefore missing any nuance.

 

let's see your track record....
first you have said that you'd kill your fellow citizens: take their guns by using yours (contradiction)
then you claim that only certain people can own.
then you said that a registration program will reduce crime. Lie
now your saying that training classes is all you demand?
jesus, sonny boy, move the goal posts much?
You also believe the only Right any of us need, according to you, is free speech.
Then all through this, you maintained a guiltless program for the government called registration.
Slick, once registration is complete, your toad, Obama, doesn't have to take the guns away, that tool will be in place for the next guy.
Like most Libs, you only see far enough ahead for your next McDonald's, not the ramification a few years down the road. Libs love instant gratification, even if it's wrong.
registration requires a full and complete data base. It is unlawful for the Fed Gov to order one.

 

The whole purpose of self-appointed naming rights is to make you miss nuances. If "gungrabber" disturbs and threatens you, how about if we use "unilateral disarmament"? We will turn in all our guns; then our moral superiority will shame the government into wiping out the armed criminals they turned loose on us. Or the criminals, who are really misunderstood victims of WHITE PEOPLE!!!, will see that they have finally received love and will turn their guns in on their own.

Thinking about this more righteous name for gungrabbing has made me feel all warm and fuzzy. I think I'll go take a nap now. Wake me up when it's all over.

 

I "got nothing" because you constantly misquote and fabricate without presenting any facts that aren't immediately destroyed? More delusions.

"Gun commie"? Sounds like more childish name calling that exhibits a very mature position. I'm amazed by the hypocrisy of other pro-gun folks for not calling you out for making them look bad.

 

Are you back yet?

 

..glad I could make your day...................................hell, I got be the center of your day.......................hahahahahahahahahahaha
but seriously, the US has over half the world, it seems, wanting to destroy America, but since your helping them, they should have no problem

 

No. Like the gungrabbers, I keep pressing the Snooze Alarm. Tell you what, mate. We'll deport all our convicts to the Great Upsidedowner and you can throw flowers at them to prevent getting mugged.

As a New Age version of Crocodile Dundee might have said, "A knife? That's not a knife. This is a knife," holding up a plastic one from McDonald's.

 

But seriously, our transnational "American" globalist elite are also hated by the foreign elite who are temporarily collaborating with them. The World's Funniest Video will be of an American CEO visiting his Third World sweatshop and getting machine-gunned by the local globalist kleptocrats when they nationalize his property.

 

you know that the Aussie gov killed the guy whose life was the model for "Crocodile Dundee" (Hogan) over his guns, too?

 

Yup. His name was Rodney Ansell. In real life he was a drug addict who started having paranoid delusions about being persecuted by Freemasons... Sounds like a few people on this thread.
Feel free to look him up yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Ansell#Death

 

Ok, so this guy shot a woman in the neck as she was getting into her car, all because he felt entitled to something that he wasn't promised...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/default...ayed-for-Craigslist-escort-killer-4544215.php

And now he's trying to play the "I was protecting myself" game? What a joke.

 

you might be misinterpreting me. I say punish the criminals to the full extent of the law. measure for crime. Don't turn the rest of us into criminals because of a few anecdotal incidents

 

I think we'd run out of room, you have a lot of convicts in the US. I mean much of this country is arid and semi and full desert, the productive land is all taken up. I know the temptation is to send them out the desert but I don't think that would be fair, we'd have to deal with the mess.