House Oversight Committee Subpoenas Hunter and James Biden

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    They are provING their case more and more everyday. Tell me what exculpatory evidence has been presented vis-a-vis the mounting evidence of influence selling and money laundering and racketeering?
     
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    So a lot of 5th Amendment invocations. All over something you guys claim is all above board and legal and not corrupt?
     
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    Speech and debate clause.

    So if Hunter and James refuse should they go to prison like the DOJ sent people associated with Trump who refused to comply?
     
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    Why not ? What’s good for the Orange Stain and his staff……..
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    Yes when it is a legal business and not political influence peddling. And this was more than just doing business in China this was doing business WITH the Chinese government in sham agreements so it could pay them off with tens of millions in laundered money.
     
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    Why wouldn't he come forward in full testimony if as you guys claim there is nothing untoward here?
     
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    Because it is supposed to protect you from having to disclose illegal acts which you guys claim have not occurred here. Trump's associates went to prison for not complying, surely you believe the same standards should apply here?
     
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    No it is your claim it was a loan it's not on me to produce the documents I don't believe exist. Their attorney and Dems in Congress immediately proclaimed Comer had the bank records that showed it was a loan. Comer said that is a lie and demanded THEY produce the relevant documents to his committee that show it was and they have been silent, there are no such documents produced.
     
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    I have no reason to believe a full report with full transcripts will not be released we already know the damning evidence they are turning up and I doubt they are going to hide it.

    Why haven't we had such an explanation yet? There has been NOTHING preventing the Biden's from coming forward with a full explanation and relevant documents to prove it. The fact is we have the records and testimony otherwise along with the testimony and evidence of the cover up going on at the DOJ and FBI.
     
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    Absolutely ! See you in 3 or 4 years.

    And the right against self incrimination does not pre suppose an illegal act has been committed.
     
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    When the accused alibi is was a loan the burden is for them to prove it was just like if it was you and the IRS or police.

    And then that little thing about the President of the country owes it to the country to it assured he is not a crook and has been selling out his office for years to our worst foreign adversaries. My question to you is why have YOU not been demanding he do so?
     
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    My claim? Comer's claiming the same through multiple shell companies.....why are you running at full gallup from those FACTS? Hyperpartisan much.....? Hit me back when you ask Comer to give up his corruption.
     
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    I’m assured that the President isn’t a crook. Mostly because you haven’t shown any EVIDENCE that he is.

    Your judgement and motivation are also highly questionable because when the Orange Stain gave Putin a pass in Helsinki over the conclusions of a dozen US intelligence agencies you defended him.

    Where was your concern for honesty and aid to our “worst enemy” then ?
     
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    Ask them...
     
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    Before we get to that point, the accusers would have to show that this check is proof that Biden (a private citizen in 2019) received Money that came from influence peddling.

    As far as I know, no witness called to testify before Congress has demonstrated this.

    Even worse, several came before Comer and Jordan to say that there was no evidence against Biden.

    To be told this by a MAGA who takes time out of his day to defend Trump on this forum is surreal.
     
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    I think we all know Hunter broke some laws
     
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    Sure, but I’m confident they’ll show up before it gets to that point.
     
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    What gives you this confidence their lawyers are calling it a political sideshow. The committee has asked for the load documents they said exist but they have refused to hand them over.
     
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    What laws did he violate that his testimony would incriminate him in one do you agree to stipulate?
     
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    Evidence to that effect has been shown where are the loan documents and the check The Big Guy wrote to his brother loaning the money in the first place. The committee has asked for it and the Biden's aren't turning them over.

    Of course they did and all the evidence discovered since has corroborated them. What evidence have we seen that is exculpatory?

    Not one said there was no evidence against The Big Guy the mere fact his family was enriching themselves off selling his influence is evidence against him.

    What evidence do you think is required to prove The Big Guy had full knowledge and facilitated that influence peddling?


    There is nothing to defend Trump on any bribery and influence peddling, the accusations against him about foreign involvement were all made up remember, what are you talking about, why would anything to do with Trump exonerate the Biden's here
     
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    Is he here to be asked? Last I checked WE were having the discussion here why the dodge?
     
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    Who ?

    Senate GOP says House lacks evidence for impeachment

    A direct witness would have to come forward to demonstrate that Biden received money, engaged in influence peddling or enjoyed undue advantages.

    Someone willing to flip.

    Like all those who did it with Trump.

    The two cases have nothing to do with each other... other than the fact that MAGA Republican elected officials want to make Biden pay for what Trump suffered during his tenure.

    And as is often the case, I find it very comical that you spend incredible energy on impeaching Biden, which in the opinion of so many GOP elected officials will lead nowhere, and that at the same time you come to Trump's defense on a daily basis.

    Who he's by far the most criminally indicted politician in US history.

    To say that your morals are elastic is an understatement.
     
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    Of course. Why wouldn’t they refuse? Like I said, they’ll get everything in 2-3 years based on past precedent.
     
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    Hookers, coke, guns, taxes….who knows
     
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    Name one and tell us where they are serving their time....
     
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