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I have a friend in Texas, she emailed me the following message

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Feb 20, 2021.

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of which I pay my share.
     
    kriman, Feb 20, 2021
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    Reading through this, I'm thinking, "These companies should face the same risk as any other private enterprise." IOW, if I hire a limousine and get stuck for three days in 17 degree weather, out in the middle of nowhere without cell service, because the limo service was negligent in some way (engine maint, tires, etc.), I believe I'd be awarded a sum of punitive damages as well as any monetary loss.

    I'm guessing the utilities' liability risk is low, but I don't know. Millions of individual law suits or one class action suit are not answers, anyway. There must be a penalty for this, or it will happen again.
     
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    It can work when the government is in charge of planning and then the running/maintenance is outsourced.
     
    Melb_muser, Feb 20, 2021
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Yay, another word for my Lispy Leftist List of Linguistic Lunacy!!! Define "erratic climate".

    Science is not "consensus", dude, nor does consensus make something true... Define "climate change". You cannot define it with itself. You MUST make reference to something outside of itself.

    Such storms rarely occur in Texas, but they DO happen from time to time, as you just saw.
     
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    agree, they could have winterized the wind turbines and of course the gas lines

    they need to learn from this, creating addl systems that are not winterized, does not help when needed
     
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    Texas has a track record of opposition to learning, unfortunately.
     
    Derideo_Te, Feb 21, 2021
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  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Midland Texas had power.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Feb 21, 2021
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    And the sane people who cry over being gouged for electricity Scream about countries like Australia that heavily regulate these industries and call us “socialists”
     
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  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, I suspect there is definitely a class action suit there, should someone take up cause.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Feb 21, 2021
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    Which is actually needed.
    Scientists have been warning America for years that its electrical infrastructure is ageing and very very vulnerable

    https://energsustainsoc.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13705-019-0199-y
     
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    Or the insurance industry could take them to court to recover funds
     
    Bowerbird, Feb 21, 2021
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, i dunno, hotter and hotter summers, bigger and more hurricanes and tornadoes over ten year period, **** like that.
    Last summer it hit 105 degrees three times in North County Inland San Diego. I've been here 30 years, and it never happened,
    and getting above 100 is common now, in the summer. Then, last year, during the winter, it rained more than Iv'e ever seen it rain.
    Broke the drought which had been years in the making. That kind of crazy weather, extreme weather that gradually gets worse ever year. Not to mention the ICE Caps on the polar regions are melting, including that of the south pole, as well.

    If 99 climate change scientists believe it's real, and one doesn't....

    Yes, it's 'scientifically possible' that the one guy is correct, and everyone else is wrong.

    But, but odds is a science, too, it's called mathematical probability, and here, the mathematical probability is that, if you are a betting man, I'd put my money with the 99. Sure, you are correct, TECHNICALLY.

    I'm going with the odds.
    That's just it with extreme weather, "climate change" gradually getting hotter in the summer, colder in the winter, with storms getting worse and it's happening exponentially

    Affects animal migration, fish, birds, etc

    https://climatechangeresponses.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40665-015-0013-9

    Wake up.
     
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    The only constant with climate IS change
     
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    Golly gee, no one ever thought of that.
     
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    Except the chicken littles who breathlessly report as though it were some new series of events
     
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    Area I lived in had all of the power lines underground when Hurricane Sandy made landfall 40 miles away.

    All of the places around me that still had above ground power lost it for a week. My power never went out.
     
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    This is Trump's baleful legacy, which will probably take the rest of this young century to fix properly. Not EVERY kind of public regulation is SOCIALISM. Some, particularly in regard to dealing with natural disasters is what we have government FOR.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Feb 21, 2021
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    B-but we can't bury all our power lines. That would be outrageously expensive. Why I've heard it might even cost as much as, I don't know, as much as building a giant wall across the entirety of our Southern border
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Feb 21, 2021
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So you want to just hook a hose to the main?
     
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    That's nice but the cost is an issue, especially in small towns like mine, they can't even seem to fix potholes
     
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    Yes, it may even cost a lot more but it will still end up CHEAPER than allowing our aging grid to degrade to the point where it resembles "shithole" nations.
     
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    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...mpshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling

    That might be the same reason WHY your potholes are NOT being fixed.
     
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    Look on the bright side... Cuba is only 90 miles away...
     
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    Total generation capacity in Texas is 120,000 megawatts. Do the math.

    https://www.barrons.com/articles/wh...r-issue-and-5-stocks-that-benefit-51613680628

    https://comptroller.texas.gov/economy/fiscal-notes/2020/august/ercot.php
     
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