I have a friend in Texas, she emailed me the following message

Grafton, NH only had a population of less than 2 thousand and it was just as "atypical" as every other "small rural town" in America.

 

Govt can help us. It just can't be relied upon to help us. People need to rely on themselves, and that involves preparation. This is, always has been, and always will be the result of relying on govt (and corporations, ftm)- eventual failure. Prepare for it.

 

So the reason we can't bury utilities is those damn libertarian s?

 

Nothing can be relied upon, not you or government.

You should prepare on your own but ALSO seek to have a strong government with a robust response to contingencies.

For the life of me, I don't see why you can't have both. Your taxes aren't going to go down any great amount unless you decide you don't want police or schools any more and preparation isn't that expensive unless you build a total luxury bunker.

 

I pay plenty of taxes. Are you suggesting I pay more? How much more? How much is too much?

Seems to me if the govt can't be relied upon taking what it already does, its never going to get any better, and is most likely not interested in getting any better. Can you point to any evidence at all that the govt is getting more reliable as we pay higher taxes? I see it getting less and less.

At what point can we say 'ok, the govt isn't using our money responsibly, so its time to give it less'?

 

That's something of a non sequitur, isn't it? If the government isn't using your money responsibly why give it less? Why not take action to see that it does?

Like most people, you don't want to pay ANY taxes. You don't have to avail yourself of any of its services and don't want to either You do like using the roads and bridges but you think they shouldn't cost that much. Government is largely invisible to you unless it tells you you can't do something or takes your money for nothing, no wonder you don't like it.

 

I love how you sorta jump in his head and do the talking for him....like a lame "superpower" or something!

 

The REASON you cannot have your potholes fixed is because of the asinine belief that you should NOT have to PAY the appropriate amount in TAXES to have them fixed which is one of the ABSURD libertarian positions RUINING our nation.

 

States where HIGHER taxes are paid provide BETTER government services for their citizens.

That EVIDENCE is available on the internet so feel free to prove me wrong.

 

Sorta like how you allow a mental midget like YOUR biggest *LOSER* to jump into your head and do all of your "thinking" for you?

 

I think that private citizens shouldn't pay taxes at all. Taxes should be paid exclusively by big and mid-size businesses. Most of us wouldn't notice the difference in prices this would cause.

 

Don't give me the 'just change the system' BS. That's just social engineering speak for 'vote for my party instead.' Its a faux-intellectual copout that equates to 'I don't have a good answer, so you fix it for me.' Spare me.

I noticed you didn't answer any of my questions... lets try them one at a time then. Lets say I make $40K/year. How much taxes, in your opinion, is too much and I can legitimately claim that I'm being overburdened by a system that doesn't benefit me? Assume I don't actively use any government services except roads (the gasoline tax that pays for the roads I actually find quite reasonable- and thx for presuming a bunch of **** about me btw, no I don't want to pay zero taxes).

This question, for the record, is a test to see if there any limit at all at which you would stop supporting our political establishment. Just try to imagine the situation where you'd had enough of the government wasting your personal labor and resources and see if you can put that situation into words. ...surprise me.

 

How much is too much? Would you, for example, support a 100% tax rate where the govt takes all and redistributes to each according to their need? If not (and I hope not), can you describe the point at which you would oppose raising taxes?

 

Thats an idea worth exploring further. At the very least, I think this is how property taxes should work.

 

Where are you coming up with this absurd notion?

 

Troll roll today?

 

I support a PROGRESSIVE tax rate system.

The MORE you earn the HIGHER your tax rate.

 

Did you FAIL to read the FACTUAL link provided that SUBSTANTIATED my position?

 

Kindly REFRAIN from imposing your own issues on others.

 

You mean your long ass screed ranting about libertarians? I glanced long enough to see your silly pack of strawmen you attempted to project. You failed.

 

Thank you for CONFIRMING that you FAILED to read the link that SUBSTANTIATES my FACTUAL position.

 

I say you want to pay no taxes working on the assumption you're like every human there is.

Like I just said, (either here or in another thread) I don't think you should have to pay ANY taxes. Direct taxes should be on medium to big businesses, no one else. And yes, I realize they'd just pass it on. (if they COULD without pricing themselves out of business) but I don't think it would be enough to be noticed, or not enough to be onerous anyway.

What do you want to pay?

 

Living in FL, there a lots of buried lines. But to entertain the thought that they should pay to bury the entire state...they would go bankrupt. They bury what they can when they can. You have to be realistic.

There are still plenty of wood frame homes on FL. Shouldn’t all those people just rebuild with concrete? Maybe we should pay for everyone to get new homes, because it’s only fair, right?

 

If you have no problem paying for necessity's then your taxes are not too high.