If Blacks are less intelligent what should we do?

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  1. Taxonomy26

    Taxonomy26 Banned

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    Yes they have.
    So says 100 YEARS of consistent IQ tests, with only apologetics on the other side.
    ie, "Lead" as an overall explanation is BS.
    sub-Saharan Blacks (70 IQ) have NO lead, while many Chinese have plenty but 106 IQs.

    Further: Admixture 'American Blacks' (app 20% white genes) have 85 IQs. Midway between between the sub-Saharan 70 and White 100.
    About what one Would expect if IQ is Genetic.
    And American Blacks, I assume, have higher "lead" than lower IQ sub-Saharans.

    We haven't mapped where every proclivity is yet on the genome.
    This a False Burden Shift.
    We DO know IQ is app 75% HERITABLE.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ#Estimates

    Various studies have found the heritability of IQ to be between 0.7 and 0.8 in adults and 0.45 in childhood in the United States.[6][18][19] It may seem reasonable to expect that genetic influences on traits like IQ should become less important as one gains experiences with age. However, that the opposite occurs is well documented. Heritability measures in infancy are as low as 0.2, around 0.4 in middle childhood, and as high as 0.8 in adulthood.[7] One proposed explanation is that people with different genes tend to seek out different environments that reinforce the effects of those genes.[6] The brain undergoes morphological changes in development which suggests that age-related physical changes could also contribute to this effect.[20]
    A 1994 article in Behavior Genetics based on a study of Swedish monozygotic and dizygotic twins found the heritability of the sample to be as high as 0.80 in general cognitive ability; however, it also varies by trait, with 0.60 for verbal tests, 0.50 for spatial and speed-of-processing tests, and 0.40 for memory tests. In contrast, studies of other populations estimate an average heritability of 0.50 for general cognitive ability.[18]

    In 2006,The New York Times Magazine listed about three quarters as a figure held by the majority of studies.[21]​
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  2. juanvaldez

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    Not a single gene, just like height.
     
  3. Taxonomy26

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    Beyond Bulldust and a Raging LIE pulled from your derriere.
    LINK?! (or resign)

    How's this one:
    Science or Fiction? China’s Obsession with the Genetics of Intelligence
    CURTIS RHEINGOLD- MARCH 20, 2013
    http://www.thebatesstudent.com/2013...-obsession-with-the-genetics-of-intelligence/
    [......]
    Is the future of humanity destined to follow a similar path? The answer to many is yes, and some already suspect that China may be attempting to do so.

    The government-funded Chinese company BGI-Shenzhen is arguably the world’s most prolific genomic sequencing company. Genomic sequencing is the process of determining the exact composition of DNA that comprises an organism’s genome. Estimates suggest that BGI accounts for between 10 to 20% of all DNA data produced globally, and the company claims to have sequenced over fifty thousand human genomes – a total that far surpasses any other group.

    Genomic sequencing itself is nothing to be worried about; the technique has led to numerous advances such as the genetic identification of certain diseases and the ability to produce healthier and more sustainable agricultural crops. Rather, it is BGI’s Cognitive Genetics Project that is causing some worry among scientists. The long-term goal of the project is to discover the genes that determine human intelligence. So far, BGI has collected DNA samples from over two thousand people with IQs over 160 and plans to sequence each genome. By comparing the 160+ IQ DNA to the DNA of normal people, BGI hopes to determine which genes are critical for a high IQ. For reference, admission to the high IQ society Mensa requires an IQ of 130, which is two standard deviations above the mean of 100.

    Vice Magazine recently published an interview with Geoffrey Miller, an evolutionary psychologist at NYU who was one of the two thousand who contributed their DNA to BGI. Miller believes that China is will attempt to use the information from the Cognitive Genetics Project to genetically select children with as high IQs as possible. If the genes that code for intelligence are indeed discovered, then IVF techniques could be used to select embryos with more “intelligent” DNA – in essence creating genetically “engineered” geniuses. Miller explained, “[e]ven if it only boosts the average kid by five IQ points, that’s a huge difference in terms of economic productivity, the competitiveness of the country, how many patents they get, how their businesses are run, and how innovative their economy is.”
    Miller also estimates that such technology could be widely implemented in as little as five to ten years.
    [......]
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  4. DarkDaimon

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    Show me some real sources and not just a Wiki article. Also, you do realize that in 100 years, IQ tests have changed substantially, right? The tests they gave 100 years ago are not even close to what they give now, therefore, the argument that here are 100 years of "consistent" IQ tests is false.

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    Thus the plurals I used.
     
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    It doesn't take an I.Q. test to determine Blacks are less intelligent. Ole Abe Lincoln knew it 150 years ago.
     
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    You might be on to something.
     
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    I just wish they would shut up during movies. Don't they know the actors won't talk back to them?
     
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    Interestingly, heavy metal poisoning - including blood lead levels - is higher for Northeast Asians than whites anywhere in the world and blacks in the US. How would you explain the higher Northeast Asian IQ compared to whites and blacks?

    A study on umbilical cords from 1993 of live births in Shanghai had an average of 9.2 ug/dL blood lead levels:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9099425

    Can you find any population or subpopulation in the Western world with a blood lead level averaging 9.2 ug/dL?

    Shanghai has an IQ of around 106 today. Can you find any Western nation with an average IQ of 106?
     
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    Shanghai is not a country, it is a city in China. China is so big that the effects of lead to the IQ of the population of a city do not affect the whole country.
     
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    Did you read or not understand the first link?

    I also don't understand why you would think a gene linked to IQ is 'related' to skin color.

    Do you think decision making is made in the skin, or are you simply unaware whites have larger brain volume than blacks?

    The 14 genes identified in the first link are more favorably expressed in whites than in blacks - all of them.
     
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    Is there any particular reason you can't attempt to educate yourself regarding a claim of yours?

    I've posted links throughout this forum showing BLL's in South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and China are far higher than anywhere in the West.

    I'm tired having to dig through old posts I didn't have the sense to bookmark.

    Why don't you do your own research since it was you who originally brought up lead toxicity?

    It seems you're more interested in finding an alibi for low black IQ than investigating the validity of your claims.

    Sad that posters too often don't investigate their own beliefs.
     
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    It is sad that you even consider this an issue. Nobody but racists care.
     
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    Do I think it matters if one population is substantially less intelligent than another?

    To ask the question is to answer it.
     
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    Why does it matter?
     
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    It matters because low IQ blacks will never be as successful as whites. They have an extraordinarily higher crime rate, are net deficits, and negatively impact white run nations.
     
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    Why is it just low IQ black you concerned about. What about low IQ whites?
     
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    Realistically the average trailer trash type White doesn't riot or loot, burn down neighborhoods or go looking for victims to beat the crap out of simply because they have got a Politically Incorrect skin tone. Nor do they get Affirmative Action and degrade the educational system. Sure they do get some free stuff, but not that much and generally not for their entire lifetime. They are just White trash busy being White trash. No problem.
     
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    Because, if income level is a proxy for IQ, then blacks have a far higher crime rate than whites with the same IQ because blacks are far more criminal than whites at the same income level.

    There's also the fact diversity is negatively correlated with sense of community.

    There's no benefit to racial diversity.
     
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    Here's the thing... individuals cannot be judged by their group affiliation. Treating an individual different than everyone else because they happen to belong to a particular group is utter stupidity that flies in the face of all logic. Not all blacks act alike, not all whites act alike, not all Muslims act alike, not all Christians act alike, not all gays act alike, not all straight people act alike. To believe otherwise is giving in to your fears and ignorance.
     
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    Every post you make is a Strawman.
    Every one.
    Everyone PC Garbage apologism and deflection.
    Your opponents post huge amounts of data for their opinions. You post NOTHING.
    The question at hand is what use we can make of the data.
    NONE of the suggestions mean treating any "individual" one meets without respect.
    You never know who you're shaking hands with.

    But, on Average, and for social policy purpose, Blacks have lower IQ, higher testosterone, and Much Higher Crime Rates.
    and this can be useful in, ie, education, policing, immigration policy, etc. See my last in the string.
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    The high testosterone claim has been refuted and the low IQ claim was proven to be environmental in cause so you have no case for the position that disproportionate crime rates by Black Americans have a genetic component. This is textbook racist propaganda which has been refuted by credible scientists.
     
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    I think you need to look up what a Strawman is.

    I am not an anthropologist or a biologist so I can't answer the question whether IQ is related to race or not, but it doesn't matter. In fact this is the whole point of this thread. There are those of African descent who are doctors, scientists, CEO's and presidents. There are those of European descent who are serial killers, rapists, thugs and terrorists. It is not logical to punish a whole group because they MIGHT be criminals. Men commit the vast of majority of violence. Should we ban men from immigrating?
     
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    The Strawman WAS you claiming anyone said we should treat any Individuals differently: especially me.
    Gameover Mr No-content.
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