If life is discovered on other planets......

I know for a fact that no professional in aviation would misuse "VFR" in that manner.

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It's an interesting dilemma. One perspective is to believe it's the journey, not the destination that is important. As such, it doesn't matter what time we live since the journey never ends.

 

Well...although I am just learning to Fly...I am not a Pilot...at least not yet.

Thing is multiple HAM Radio Operators picked this up and NASA did NOT cut the video feed and all you need to do is grab the STS Missions number....and Google that video...as I have watched the video and if you read lips...you can tell what is being spoken.

AboveAlpha

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By the way....VFR has two meanings for any Pilot or Astronaut.

In this case it most likely was used as VERY FU@#!NG REAL!!

AboveAlpha

 

Good luck with your training. Maybe you'll eventually see what I'm talking about.

Regarding Ham radio operators, sure, they could have picked it up. Conversely, anyone could have transmitted it.

LOL. Funny, but it wasn't used that way either.

"Hello Houston this is Discovery. We still have the alien spacecraft, uh, on VFR"

 

A good reference for all those in the aviation industry:

Pilot-Controller Glossary

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/media/pcg.pdf

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FWIW, I doubt they would have used the term "alien spacecraft" either.

 

Thanks for the well wishes.

As far as the HAM Operators...it is important to note several...more than 5...recorded this and when the tapes were compared they were identical.

As well Triangulation was possible showing the signal originated from the Shuttle.

AboveAlpha

 

Or bounced off a satellite near the shuttle. So far, I've seen on evidence except for one crappy, and unprofessional, recording.

 

Look for the Video.

NASA completely FREAKS when the Astronaut forgets to switch to the Encrypted Military Frequency.

Bouncing a radio signal from Earth off a Satellite would be something that we could attempt to sync up with the triangulated location of the Shuttle.

As well a certain frequency DOPPLER EFFECT of such a bounced signal would be completely different that that of the Shuttle as Tringulation and the Doppler Effect of the Shuttle is very different than that of a Satellite.

As well the Shuttle would be no where NEAR a Satellite which would have to be at the very least hundreds of miles away most likely in a higher orbit and such a satellite orbit would be much different from the shuttle.

AboveAlpha

 

Our existence is statistically improbable, so the chances of finding life even more advanced than us is even more unlikely than our own existence.

 

You mean "Apollo 18"?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/digital/fact-vs-fiction/why-apollo-really-stopped-at-17

 

Come now Max....keep it Civil.

If you don't wish to believe what I post that is fine.

But don't make the mistake of making this personal....because I don't do that.

Plus you simply don't know what I know...and I wish I never did know.

AboveAlpha

 

Not completely true. Age is a factor. Let's say the odds of life are 1 in a Billion. Pretty long odds, right? You're more likely to win the Lotto at 1 in 175 Million. Since the Sun is in the outer arms of our galaxy, it's about 7 billion years younger than the inner stars. That's quite a bit. That also puts a lot of star systems that have life to be far older than our own.

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2012/25/text/

 

I'm not only keeping it civil albeit humorously light, I'm also keeping it factual. You suggest others go off on wild goose chases looking some fringe video alleging NASA, our government and all scientific agencies on the planet are conspiring to conceal knowledge of an alien race. Besides the obvious ludicrousness of such an idea, the question of "why would they do that?" pops into mind.

 

We already have found a great deal of evidence for the existence of life in higher dimensions of space - time. The majority of people are generally encouraged and positive about this. The popularity of the book and film "Heaven is for Real" is evidence of this.

Near death experiencer Christian Andreason was shown some things about alien life forms during his brush with death.

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

Steven Greer Ph. D. postulates that if the truth about UFO's is widely known we will realize that internal combustion engines are almost certainly not the most efficient.

http://www.theorionproject.org/en/

 

First of all it is not much of a secret but ignorance....religion and those who just cannot accept Human's are all that special from a Universal or even Galactic standpoint....keep it the worst kept secret ever.

Look up the Hoover/LeMay letters.

They are confirmed Official FBI to Military records.

AboveAlpha

 

LOL!!! I agree!!

Freakin' Internal Combustion!!!

Did you know for about $4700 a person can convert their Gasoline burning engine to Hydrogen burning?

The same pistons are used and everything...only thing different is the Hydrogen Gas injectors and the tank.

Better power....clean burning...and safer.

They could change all current Gasoline pumping stations to Hydrogen Gas...or even LNG.

Hydrogen is only the most available substance on Earth and in the Universe.

AboveAlpha

 

An interesting theory but I find it along the lines of the conspiracy to suppress knowledge of an engine that runs on water. Interesting, but difficult to suppress. To hide knowledge of an alien existence would require the 100% cooperation not only of thousands of Americans from scientists, to military personnel, to government workers and other professionals but also their counterparts in governments around the world.

That'd be quite a conspiracy and, IMO, impossible to keep suppressed.

 

Having had an NDE myself, I have no doubt about existence on a higher plane. I also find it highly unlikely that we're the only life forms in the Universe. Still, it's interesting we haven't found any evidence of life, either higher or lower forms, despite decades of looking.

 

Max....... imagine for a moment that you are a judge in a case where an inventor has a hydrogen fuel engine that runs on water......… who asserts that his engine runs on tap water........ his legal opponents want to add a white substance to the water....... the inventor objects....... would YOU allow these people to add the white substance to the water/fuel?

Would sugar assist the gasoline in a newly invented gasoline engine to work properly?

http://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/stanley-meyers-and-zero-point-energy.42388/

 

My theory regarding the UFO over the Temple Mount event is that humanity is being warned that going to war against the nation of Israel is a terrible idea?!

"I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." (Genesis 12:3)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIoHE6P8gOk

ALL 6 VIDEOS - Temple Mount UFO OVNI Jerusalem, January 2011 PROOF

...… Max........ can you imagine how much it would cost to hire actors and actresses and special effects people to film something like this from so many different angles?????!

 

Helen Wambach Ph. D. pretty much proved that we humans......… are a far higher form of life than we tend to imagine??!

I read both of her books back in the '90's and the whole world has sure looked different since then..........

http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

… her research corresponds perfectly with the summary by NDEr Christian Andreason...… chapter 5.....

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

Clarke also said technology if advanced enough would be indistinguishable from majack, or words to that effect. What if Jesus/God/Allah/the Hindu supernaturals Mayan gods etc etc were an ET(s). Personally if Jesus were an et, it would bolster through the roof my faith and not effect my beliefs one iota! That is true if he did what the bible said and had the same details etc, why should it? Most secular would have far more of a problem (if the ETs were incarnations of religious icons) than religious folk IMO. PRIDE would not allow the secular types to admit they have been wrong since the dawn of man and when it came time to worship....I would bet that many would be sitting with Satan before they would loved God.

reva

 

The Wright brothers are credited with the first heavier-than-air powered flight, but it's technology whose time had come. There's evidence that Gustav Whitehead flew two years before the Wright brothers.

Nikola Tesla was a genius along with Edison. Tesla was correct about AC being better for home power, but Edison's advocation of DC current made it controversial at the time.

If technology existed to make cheap power using water, then it would be invented not by a single inventor or scientist, but by several using the same tools, technology and knowledge. Even if it was suppressed in this country by the "Oil Oligarchies", technical nations in desperate need of relief from being chained to oil would be leading the way to break free. Specifically Germany and Japan.

 

Canada's former Minister of Defence, Paul Hellyer.... is no longer cooperating...…

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...-technology-because-of-earths-wars-pollution/


Former Canadian defence minister claims aliens refuse to share technology because of Earth’s wars, pollution

 

Would we find Sharks swimming in the Sahara?

We have managed to look within our solar system, and are very limited even in this. Still, there are places within it that are likely to have the ingredients required for some form of life (as we know it). Imagine a beach full of sand, there are four hundred bright red grains of sand in the 40 ft. deep layer which is 12 miles long. Would you expect to find one of these grains by looking from the boardwalk?

Now....imagine those red grains are spread throughout all the sand on Earth. How many red grains in the beach you are next to? Yet, just within our own solar system there are at least two likely candidates for possible life beyond the Earth. I'm guessing there are far more than a few hundred "Red Grains" out there.