"If My Vagina Were A Gun"

Hello mcfly!!!! If you aren't ready to be a parent then you aren't ready for sex. This is typically covered in 5th grade health class.
Oh and you brought up the fact that you had already thought about what you would do if you were pregnant not me, therefore its fair game to ask since YOU brought it up. If you don't think its anyone elses business then don't bring it up in public conversation its as simple as that. Please don't answer, it just proves me correct. You cant even say it out loud.

 

No I did the opposite, I literally just explained it to you. The point for slow people is the fetus is incapable of talking or making choices. It had no say in the matter at all. Therefore it is innocent. The mother however had ample opportunity to not create a situation in which an innocent life is taken. Im still waiting for what the fetus is guilty of.

 

That's the argument why put the unborn to death when it did not commit a crime.
Actually it depends, there are times when abortion is a crime.

 

Explain why women who chose to have children are being selfish.

 

what does the 14th amendment have to do with the 9th amendment? And also the 9th amendment is not all inclusive and since privacy is never mentioned, it is not an unenumerated right, unless the state has privacy laws. and privacy is def not an implied right, or natural right, otherwise NSA would be committing illegal acts. Also not a fundamental right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unenumerated_rights
either are legal ones. But what data they do have is 1972 24 legal abortion deaths and 39 illegal ones. Far cry form this 10,000 that pro-choice claim died each year in the USA from illegal abortion.
no abortion law in the USA prevents women from seeking medical care, nor would any abortion law proposed. Just restricts abortion. Again apples to oranges.
what do I call not allowing a woman to use her body as a killing ground? I call it making sense.
do you notice the drop in overall abortions directly relating to restrictions placed on abortion. We gained 200,000 lives/year.
Illegal abortions are not nearly as dangerous as 40 years ago, just as legal abortion is not. Plus just because it is safer legal, does that mean it should be legal? Of course not. Just because it happens anyways, does that mean it should be legal and endorsed by the government? Of course not
Abortion is the killing of unborn humans, you can call them embryos and fetuses to give you a warm fuzzy, but fact is it is an unborn immature undeveloped human.

 

OK, then, you don't believe we have a right to privacy. Noted. I hope you haven't been complaining about the NSA.

If abortion were illegal, would a botched abortion victim seek medical care knowing she would be arrested and jailed?

It makes sense to you for women to be forced to use their bodies against their will in reproductive slavery, then. Don't try to deny it.

I call them embryos and fetuses because that is what they are by definition and in reality. You call them unborn humans in your alternate reality, because your rigid ideology requires it. FACT IS, there is no consensus about when one becomes a human being. Your claim is a logical fallacy, and when you continue to repeat it, it becomes a lie.

 

Sorry, I wasn't in your 5th grade health class.

Consent to sex is only consent to sex. It is not consent to pregnancy and it is not consent to carry any pregnancies that may happen to term. Consent to pregnancy is when a woman says to her partner, "I want to get pregnant, let's make a baby, etc."

And it is also fair game for me to respond as such to your questions about my personal life.

By the way, I may share as much as I like about myself and stop whenever I want to. Don't be so surprised that you didn't get the answer you wanted.

 

Some people have babies merely because they WANT them (wanting something is inherently selfish).

Some people have babies to carry on the family name, another selfish act, not taking into consideration whether the child will keep the family name going or will even want to.

Some people have babies to try and keep their marriage together, another selfish act, thinking a baby will keep your relationship from failing, also bringing a baby into the family during unstable times with your partner, not thinking what's best for the baby.

There are many more examples but I don't care to list them all for you.

 

As usual you claim proof when you haven't given a damn thing.

Just how long has the USA been at war with Pakistan, must have missed that announcement under this rock I'm supposedly living under.

To start with you were quite entertaining, even funny in some of your comments .. now your just plain boring, time to stop wasting my breath and move one .. bye bye

 

Really, please do show me admitting that or yet again is this you just seeing what you want to see.

again notice these little marks "", find out what they stand for and then come back to me

If you want the question answered then define what you mean by innocent .. hence why I posted those definitions, and it is hilarious that you claim I am avoiding answering questions when you have done nothing but misrepresent and try to place words into my mouth all along;

Still waiting for you to quote where I say any of the following you stated I said, show me where I "ask" you "if the deaths of innocent people are ok,", and where did I state that you are not free to call me out on a statement made.

you can claim whatever hollow victory you want, after all an empty vessel makes the most noise.

 

I really wouldn't waste your time Cady, even if you put the proof right in front of this poster they would still deny it .. it's a pointless exercise in futility.

 

It's an interesting scenario pro-lifers make for themselves, on one hand they say that if a woman is mature enough to have sex she is mature enough to have a a baby, and yet the very laws they advocate say that a woman who is mature enough to make the decisions to have sex is NOT mature enough to make decisions about her own body and ergo must be forced by other peoples decisions.

It simply makes no sense.

didn't you know that it is only "evil" and "irresponsible" women who have abortions, the ones who only want one so they can "go out and party" !!!!!

 

Obviously the writer of the comment you responded to has absolutely no idea of what personification means.

This comment here - "If the fetus was able to ask questions then personification would be true." - is just ludicrous.

Personification - the attribution of a personal nature or human characteristics to something non-human, or the representation of an abstract quality in human form.

 

No we do have a right to privacy, because of federal laws and state laws, not because of anything in the constitution. nice try.
If she would rather die then face criminal charges for breaking the law that is her choice. You are pro-choice right?
Don;t try to make it something it is not. you know darn well you are being dishonest
no fallacy, it is an unborn human. Or do you think it is an unborn frog, or goat perhaps. Its a complete fact that a zygote is a human zygote, an embryo is a human embryo, human fetus, human baby. Human every step. Why even try to say otherwise, you would be in a very small minority if you believe it can be anything other then human. Unborn humans, just a fact, no lie. Zygote embryo and fetus are scientific terms for stages in development of the unborn human. why even deny that an embryo is an unborn human. Even pro-chocie acknowledge that.

 

We arent at war with pakistan
Translation, you have completely lost the argument and will move on to try to overpower someone else with your false war comparing and denying that the unborn human is a human

 

according to you-you are

If you say so

The delusional state of mind you have just gets worse, claiming a "victory" when none has been won is pathetic .. are you pathetic?

 

lol I never mention pakistan.
only thing pathetic is your attempts to call me delusional . Now care to stick to the topic? Or would you rather just break the rules and attempt to hurt me internet feelings?

 

Fortunately we have young men like A-Sam to tell us how to spot the "evil women"....they're the ones who don't do what Sam wants them to do.

 

WTF are you on, you responded to my comment of "Tell that to the thousands killed in Afghanistan, Iraq and currently Pakistan." with "prove they are innocent and also did you know over 77% of these innocent civilians, have been killed by terrorists that will not think twice about killing you, or i as well. Most of these *innocent* civilians actually help the terrorists in their fight to kill NATO, American, and other countries people, not just soldiers either. Some actual innocent lives are lost at the hands of allied forces, yes. To compare war on terrorism and collateral damage to abortion is absurd BTW and laughable." followed by this "It's all been proven, have you lived under a rock your whole life?
Also prove they are innocent. You can't.
Again comparing a war to abortion is completely dishonest, moving goalposts, everything you cry about. You are the squirmer and dishonest one you claim me to be. Your desperation is thick "

Where it is noticed that you change the context of your original comment from "To compare war on terrorism and collateral damage to abortion" to "Again comparing a war to abortion is completely dishonest"

So I asked you how long you have been at war with Pakistan, as it was part of my original comment.. you know the one you had a nice rant over and you have the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing gall to accuse me of moving the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing goalposts .. pathetic

 

BTW, didn't Steveja admit that YES there were "some" innocent civilians killed in US combat actions in the Middle East....

he just dismissed them as "not as important" as "babies" "killed" by abortion?

So is his true concern "innocent life"....or just banning abortion?

 

It seems the thread has drifted a bit too far off course. Sorry folks, but this one is now closed.

Shangrila
PF Moderator