If something incredible happened, would you share it?

Every year there are many people who make many different and incredible claims.

However, I want you to imagine, as an average person, that something happens to you that is quite literally staggering.

Examples?

You wake at 3am, go out to the field out back, and have a dialogue with intelligent beings from another world.

You walk into a room, and see transparent spectre like figures sitting there.

An apparition of Jesus, Moses, or Buddah appears before you, with a special message for you.

Now, I am going to assume that you are of sound mental heath, not taking anything that would alter your perception, and this just happens to you.

What do you do?

Would you be willing to even believe your own self, or go for the default of dismissing it as a dream or even a delusion?

Would you speak to anyone about it, if so, who would be best placed to discuss it with?

Would you be tempted to remain totally silent, for obvious fear of ridicule?

Would you be prepared to go public?

I would be really interested to hear from those who think of themselves as very rational and logical, and how they would feel if they had an experience of this type?

 

Sounds like Obama's bus tour. The guy's an effing space alien.

 

How the (*)(*)(*)(*) did anything in the OP have a go(*)(*)(*)(*)ed thing to with Obama? Like really?

 

To answer the question.. I think I would think that was totally cool! I would tell my close friends, but nobody else. Because (*)(*)(*)(*) everyone else, I'll share it only with my friends.

 

The OP referred to intelligent beings from another world. The name Obama came to mind. Don't look for trouble with me.

 

Would you expect them to believe you?

Would you feel offended if they suggest you see a shrink?

Would it be cool, or would it be quite terrifying, in reality..?

Would you believe what you had seen with your own eyes as literal physical reality, or tend to incline toward dismissing it as an episode of psychosis, or some other thing?

 

I'm sick of all this partisan crap man. But whatever, I don't care. Post what you will. It's all good

 

Although many say that those who make such staggering claims do it for attention or money, I am not so sure that is true.

Sure, there are those that have cashed in on whatever their experience was, maybe getting paid a fee to speak on some programme, but I am not so sure that is entirely bad or wrong, is it?

However, in my view, the overwhelming majority do not write books about it, they do not appear on television, and they would shy away from publicity, even for financial gain.

You can well understand why, if they had such an experience, they would either say nothing to anyone, or be almost programmed to dismiss it as a delusion - it is easier to do that than consider other possibles. Society does not take too kindly to those that claim to see or hear things that others cannot, only these days, rather than the punative measures of old, we put them in a psychiatric hospital, and give them a diagnoses.

A society in which an automatic assumption of madness would follow such a claim, and possibly being sectioned, this tends to put people off, when it comes to reporting anything that they may have experienced.

It's strange, for all that we have advanced in terms of science and tech, for all of that, we would still potentially persecute anyone that claimed to have experiences that we deemed not the norm. We might fill them with toxic drugs that make their mind really messed up. Or send them to speak to shrinks. Or keep them in a 'hospital'.

 

Let's get more specific. Are the aliens or ghosts giving you schematics for an antimatter gun or time travel? If they came to visit you to discuss the weather or your favorite soap opera, you really should question your sanity.

 

I would not go public with it, I am willing to believe myself but the farther away from the experience I am, the easier it is to dismiss it as a dream..

and yeah I would question my own sanity..

 

I think most people would question their own sanity, but how would you be sure that what you had seen was not a delusion, but something you had experienced, in a real sense?

Truth be told, you couldn't. I suppose either you would 'feel' it to be real enough that you are convinced, or you do what most might do, and believe that you' must' be mistaken, in some way.

Maybe we have conditioned ourselves to almost automatically dismiss the notion that what we are seeing is real, on a physical level?

I would imagine that in more primative times, for example, around the time when Jesus is alleged to have lived, if someone had an experience of this type, the people were of a different mindset, more believing, less sceptical.

Not that scepticism is a bad thing, it's blind belief that is the bad thing.

It's a shame in a way though, you say that if you experience something of this type, and were convinced it was real, you would not go public.

I can understand your reasons, but it is a form of subtle oppression of information, that we live in a society that would discourage you from sharing your story.

 

I am a skeptic. I would assume it was a dream or a psychotic episode. I would go get a psych/medical workup.

 

Interesting.

So even in circumstances which, albeit not the norm, felt physically real to you, you would default back to believing that you were having a psychotic episode.

Which, in practice, means that nothing could happen to you personally which would convince you it may be actual reality.

 

Doesn't mean that at all. It means I must eliminate an mental or physiological reason for it before I entertain the fantasy that I am important enough for the supernatural to single out. I would think I was just as likely to win every state lottery this week.

I would eliminate the most likely explanation first. And I believe it is more likely that I am hallucinating than a unicorn from Vega manifested to warn me against eating pork.

 

When you are experiencing the impossible or supernatural, it is only rational to look towards the possible and natural to explain the occurrence. If I saw an alien, I would want to know why a group would travel billions, trillions, or more miles across space in order to come into a field in the suburbs of Chicago in order to talk to me. What incentive would they have to be in that position? It makes no sense, therefore I would assume I had imagined the episode, and I would seek help. Similarly, if I experienced the supernatural, I would search for a natural explanation of the the supernatural occurrence. Meaning mental disorder. What is more likely, that a race of intelligent beings traveled trillions(if not more) of miles to talk to me in a field, or that I am delusional/insane? Obviously the latter is more likely.

 

Why would you need to be important?

Why do you think it might be supernatural?

It may be an entirely natural thing, and you may not have to be very 'important'.

 

Why would it make no sense?

We as a species like to explore.

We explore elemetary life forms.

Why would another intelligent species be any different?

 

if you had a cold, you would not sneeze one time...or cough once. You would have OTHER symptoms, and your sneezing and coughing would be continous.

so if you are functioning fine before and after, how could ONE episode be proven to be a mental delusion or insanity? Are you saying that if you think you saw a ghost one time but never again and had not other symptoms, you would classify yourself as insane?

that doesn't make sense to me..

 

well, I don't mind sharing my experience anonymously like this; did you want us to give examples?

I had an online friend I was very close to, we talked every day, sometimes for four or five hours at the time but never met in person. Another member of our little online group traveled to his city and met with him in person; met some of his friends but no one ever went to his house.

He died of a heart attack a little over a year ago. We verified his death thru newspaper obits and thru contact with his friends and family.

A couple of weeks ago, I was laying in bed and had a strange experience, it was as if a tunnel appeared in my bedroom and I could see thru it. He was there, I couldn't see HIM but I could see his arm pointing and he 'showed' me around his property, not in his house but outside...we were on his back porch, and we stepped off onto the dry dead grass, it crunched under our feet. I could see his arm pushing the grass away to show me his 'kitters', his cats...I asked to see his firepit, where he kept getting his truck stuck but he wouldn't, he said he didn't have time. He wanted to show my his 'sweat'..a sweat lodge he had built. It was in a dark deeply overgrown stand of little saplings, you couldn't see into it it was so dark...then the tunnel closed. The entire time the 'tunnel' was open I was very aware that I was really laying in my bed, I could feel my bed...

it may have been a dream *shrug* and it isn't important to me if anyone believes me or not. I know it stirred a lot of emotion in me and I have had him on my mind a LOT since it happened. So whatever...

 

I went on a cruise all last week and was unable to post here, does that count?

 

I met the girl of my dreams 32 years ago. It was an incredible experience. It still is to this day. Why? Because I married her.

 

You mentioned Moses and the whatnot.

 

When you understand the vastness of space, it makes no sense. The distances that would have to be traveled are so vast as to be incomprehensible. You are talking at a minimum hundreds of light years, and a maximum so large that it cannot be expressed properly in this format. Just for example, the closest star to us is 24902909498880 miles away!! That is almost 25 trillion miles. That is however only 4.2 light years away. So keeping in mind 4.2 light years away, is 25 trillion miles. The farthest known star is 15 billion light years away!!! That is a distance which is incomprehensible to our minds. Even accepting that is the greatest extremes, you are still talking distances so vast that they cannot be practically traveled.

Take time dilation into account, and the likelihood that advanced species are making long distance space journeys for the purposes of exploration are so remote, as to be dismissed almost without hesitation. Because by the time the explorers left and returned with their findings, hundreds, thousands, or even more years would have passed!!


Read this.


http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q306.html


With current technology it would take 17,900 years to get to the closest star!! Do you understand now why it would make no sense to travel across such vast distances to land in a field in the Chicago suburbs?!?!?!

 

What if I only had 1 vision, and no other symptoms, but my vision showed me NOT God, but that in fact I was God? However, after that I never showed any other symptoms, should I then assume I am in fact God? Of course not, don't be absurd.


What if instead of being visited by characters from the Christian myths, I was visited by characters from the greek myth? What if Poseidon came to me with his Trident, and gave me a message, but I then never displayed any other symptoms? What would you say then? The only difference is based on your own biases, they are equally evidence of delusion/insanity/lack of sleep/etc. There are natural explanations for visions, that do not require the acceptance of any supernatural explanations. Especially not ones that ask me to accept that Poseidon is real.

 

no, but then if it was ONE time, would you completely disrupt your life? Put yourself thru counseling and medical treatment for what you yourself acknowledge is nothing?

that's true. Again, it isn't important to me that you agree with me, I believe that there is more to life than what we can see.