If something incredible happened, would you share it?

No offence, but are you not taking a rather limited view?

You are looking at it through the eyes of our technology.

At our present state of capablity.

Yet we are not talking of our ability to go anywhere.

What if, for example, a species had evolved that were some 35,000 years ahead of us, in their technology?

What they would be able to do may seem like it would make 'no sense', were it shown to you now.

You would consider it a magic trick, when it would be better technologies.

Do you see?

 

After saying a prayer, I would seek professional help immediately.

 

Who or what are you praying to?

And why?

 

Not stepping into this one.
Its for me to know and for you to find out.

 

But you admit you are praying to someone or thing, yes?

Otherwise it is just putting your hands together and talking....to yourself.

Which would make one of your previous posts rather ironic.

 

No, because what you are saying is nonsense. Even traveling at the speed of light, it would take years to get to the closest star. With time dilation taken into account, you are talking decades for the trip there and back. That is the closest star. Considering the vastness of the universe, the likelihood that life exists in the solar system of the closest star is astronomical. So even if life does exist outside our solar system, and it has advanced beyond our ability to comprehend, they cannot overcome the laws of physics, no matter how advanced they are. The distances that are traveled are so great, and the effects of time dilation increase the closer one gets to the speed of light, so that you come to the conclusion that the time and distances are too great for any species to travel the distances. Especially to travel the distances in order to land in a field on earth to converse with a solitary human being. It is entirely absurd.

 

Again, you are only finding it absurd because, as before, you are unable to imagine what a civilisation with technology some 35,000 years in front of our own, may be capable of.

They may well be able to actually travel at the speed of light, or they may use something that, as yet, there would be no true explaination for, but just a technology.

If two men were speaking in the 17th century, and one had a dream, and in that dream he thought of the 'internet', and all the incredible things that could be done on it, then if he related that to his friend, why I rather think he would be using the same 'impossible' arguments that you are using.

You are coming from a position of assumption based on what you know, at this fixed point in time.

 

There is no comparison to the internet. The internet does not defy the laws of physics.

And just to be clear, do you know what time dilation is? I am not trying to be condescending, I am just clarifying.


PS. I have read stuff written by theoretical physicists, who talked about possible methods of deep space travel. They all accept that linear space travel across vast distances is a near impossibility, excepting the idea of inter-generational travel. That is very different from exploration though. However, they do raise the possibility of using something resembling wormholes in order to travel vast distances in an instant. That however has no grounding in any evidence we have today. So it may be possible for some advanced species to travel vast distances in an instant, in order to watch me urinate, there is just no reason to believe that. In fact, all reason says otherwise. It is not impossible, but at the moment, the idea of deep space travel for the purposes you mentioned, is IN FACT absurd.

 

You miss the point.

Our knowledge is growing all the time, our technology is advancing at an almost incredible rate, and there has been a special surge there, in the past six decades or so.

What I am trying to say is that if you were a man, even a learned one, living in the 5th or 15th century, much of what we can do today, would have appeared inexplicable and impossible to you.

Why? Because you would be seeing modern tech through 5th century eyes.

And that is just a few centuries.

I asked you to imagine what a technology were like that was some 35,000 years ahead of what we know.

Genuine question - can you? Don't be afraid to reply 'no', that would be the sensible answer to an extent, as none of us can really imagine that, but one thing we can be sure of, and that is we today would look at it, as your 5th century man would have looked at the internet.

Do you see?

 

Your view doesn't make it nonsense.

You seem unable to imagine what technology might make any intelligent life form capable of, if it were thousands of years ahead of what we have.

This is your loss.

Inventors and creators, they begin with an idea, and sure, often it is ridiculed. Many of the things we take for granted today would have been ridiculed once upon a time. The masses often lack vision, I find.

It is just as well that creativity and human genius were not put to general consensus, since if they were, many of our greatest advancements would never have happened.

Once upon a time we had ancestors that worshipped our moon.

Some time along the way, we had landed on it.

No magic, no gods, just creative genius making what once seemed impossible, very possible.