If you refuse the vaccine, you don't matter. It's the people you infect that matter!

This thread is not about me. Focus! Start by reading the OP, if you want to know who this thread is about.

 

No. This is not a dictatorship and vaccines are to save lives. Those that don't do the vaccine are more likely to die and that is a fact.

 

It's a fact? How much more likely? Any idea?

 

Do the terms “authoritarianism” and “bodily autonomy” mean anything to you?

Did you know the data is now coming in on what we intuitively knew all along—alcohol consumption increases risk of infection and risk of poor outcomes with SARS-CoV-2?

Risky alcohol behavior in college students more than doubles risk of infection.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.03.21261444v1

Alcohol consumption linked to poor outcomes.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34068824/

And:
https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1513/AnnalsATS.202008-988RL

 

You reference yourself 5 times in the OP.

 

Maybe not all vaccines will work on all. It's worth the risk.

 

What does liquor have to do with the COVID vaccine?

 

Ah, you are not concerned with saving lives or ending the pandemic. Why didn’t you just say so.

 

If you want me to wear a mask for your safety I'm going to start knocking that McDonald's out of your hand, you know for your safety....

 

Fine but you say no one has the right to infect others. What would you like to do to prevent that? Force them to vaccinate? Quarantine them? Execute them? On the other hand you don't care if they fall over dead. So you want to leave them alone to infect others and die? I'm confused.

 

That is hilarious! You took the time to count how many times I use the word "I". Unfortunately, none to actually understand what the topic we are discussing is.

 

No, what is hilarious is you reference yourself repeatedly in the OP and aren’t aware that does make you the topic. As I’ve said on PF before, authoritarians are not self aware.

You would think by now people would have learned to not post content they don’t wish to discuss on a forum.

 

The only purpose of this thread is to clarify that this "right" doesn't exist. If you are asking what can be done to prevent the spread of Covid, there are many other threads about that topic. Not this one. This one has served its purpose.

 

This is beyond nonsense! Your "logic" (or lack thereof) is very similar to that of another poster who is very fond of derailing threads. Which is very suspicious.

I am not the topic. The fact that I use the word "I" does not make me the topic. Just like the fact that I use the word "you" doesn't make you the topic either. So, if you can stay on topic, go ahead. If not, I'm passing on these apparently "coordinated" attempts to derail this thread.

 

You stated early on here in this thread posts derailing the thread would be ignored. Clearly my posts are on topic because you reply.

You made a thread based on your feelings. That makes you the topic whether you like it or not.

 

I often respond to posts that are off-topic when I can make fun of them or say something I find amusing. There is no way I could have passed by the opportunity to make fun of the fact that you took the time to count how many times I used the word "I". It's just beyond my DNA structure to let that one pass. I'm still laughing about it.

 

But rest assured...not quite as loudly as the guffaws your signature line inspires...

 

The signature, while on face value, has a clear point. The unsaid part of it is that people's definition of what is one person's responsibility to support is, versus another person's responsibility to support is.

 

I’m glad you are amused. It accentuates the lack of self awareness I pointed out. We are all amused you continue to post content that is off topic yourself while complaining about others posting content that refutes the OP.

 

I never said that I was not concerned of saving lives or ending the pandemic. I don't know where you got your information from but how would you know this kind of information in the first place? The truth is that I am concerned about saving lives and the pandemic ending like everyone else. It's just you don't want to recognize it. You want to believe what you want to believe. Whether it's true or false. Don't assume anything with me. Got it?

 

With such a small percentage of dying I wonder why the vaccinated are the most fearful. Yes, it is an unethical dictatorship to demand an inoculation with an experimental treatment unapproved by the FDA with no long term testing.

 

If you were concerned with ending the pandemic you would be educated on how alcohol use, obesity, and other lifestyle choices are more responsible for deaths and infections than vaccination status.

Do you know one of the demographics having the most breakthrough infections and poor outcomes from breakthrough infections are those with liver disease from alcoholism? Do you know that 90% of Covid deaths are in countries with more than 50% of the population overweight?

Covid is a preventable disease and people are completely unaware of that fact. If you cared about life and health you would know this. Instead you want to mandate vaccinations for people who can’t even benefit from them because of lifestyle choices. We are now going to give a third dose to people with compromised immune systems that caused that compromised immune system by their previous behaviors.

Mandating vaccination while allowing people to make other choices that harm themselves and others is illogical.

 

I believe that you have facts in what you said and you're entitled to it. I believe there would be warnings on doing Liquor consuming when getting the vaccine. Do you have anymore information on it so the rest of us will learn from it. Since you know plenty on this, you can tell us more and what we don't know what you know about it.

 

If you say that this is an unethical dictatorship, Then you probably believe that it is worth it.

 

I think you were off topic on this one.