Illegals Pouring Into Our Country

Well, it is your opinion. As for the evidence, it is but your interpretation of it.

That one BP member must have some pull, since even DHS sent in Coast Guard medics.

Seperated simply by yellow tape

Locally it must be if scabies has been going around for over a month, nationally probably not, yet it must still be contained and treated.

Because it doesn't effect you, just dismiss it. Those who live on the border are also part of the front lines and can come into contact with it. It only takes one to get through.

 

Your avatar is a cartoon of a green dinosaur. Am I supposed to guess your race based on that, or something? Is it some weird 3rd world cultural tradition?

Gee, I can't imagine why anyone would be opposed to 3rd world Marxists flooding over the border.

You guys had this land for eons. You didn't do anything with it. That's why you want it back... because of what it has become. Can't you make Mexico or Central America into something?

 

Gringos are not immigrants. They are conquerors. They took this land for blood and empire.

The Aztecs coming over the border today are refugees of a failed country. They offer nothing.

 

The difference is legal immigration takes decades, costs thousands of dollars, and is next to impossible if you're coming from the wrong country. Put together a decent program for legal immigration and most folks would be happy to comply. Make it impossible to use and folks will find another way.

Most of the problems folks cite for why we shouldn't have a free border involve out of control entitlements. The fix isn't kicking out undocumented workers, it's getting the entitlements under control.




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Heh, you are just called us white folks savages with this post.

Good stuff

 

I've always called for an easier path to citizenship. Simply crossing the border however...

 

When you've tried for 45 years to join your family in the U.S. and are facing the very real likelihood of dying before seeing anything happen, the idea of simply walking across an arbitrary line in the sand is a lot less shocking.

Our government has done some very stupid things and many times the only reasonable response to a dumb law is peacefully disregarding it. Our immigration policy is a broken as prohibition and is as deplorably unfair as segregation.



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Yes because 10 million + illegals had waited 45 years to come here...

Want to actually debate the matter or make up sob stories and pull at the heart strings?

 

"At one point". But when push came to shove, the base voted the way they always do. But I'm sure it's librul media's fault, eh?

In all honesty, what makes you first world and them third world? Because you say so?


As for Reagan, we all know he wouldn't make it past a Republican primary today, even though he's often considered the face of conservatism. Cruz, like Reagan, probably doesn't believe half of what he says. He panders to the base, like Reagan. Do you really think Cruz likes Jessie Helms? I doubt it. Does Cruz's father really think Obama was born in Kenya? Doubt it, but he'll pander to his son's base by telling them "Obama should go back to Kenya". He knows it's what they like to hear, just liked they loved hearing Reagan telling them he supported "states rights".

Well, she is white, so doesn't that make it a bit easier for you to handle? We all know how tough it is being a white man in Obama's America, where the minorities get special treatment, and the white man is abused.

 

I dont care if illegal aliens have to wait 100 years to join up in America.

If family unification means that much let them reunite back in mexico where they belong.

 

A savage and a conquerer are two different things.

And your white guilt is very feminine

 

Just demonstrating it's broken. And the fact that 10 million + people ignored the law is only further evidence it's both an unenforceable and unwanted law. Segregation, prohibition, you know blow jobs and marijuana used to be illegal in many states too...



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Get a room.



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". They took this land for blood and empire"

That's savage behavior. You can't spin it any other way.

 

Well that will certainly encourage folks to choose the legal process!




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Yes, it is an old story, but the fact of the matter is that the EITC and the ACTC are two totally separate credits. The issue with the ACTC, that was expanded greatly by the Bush Administration with his 2003 Tax cut is how to account for income. SE income, specifically, cash based business such al lawn mowing, pool maintenance, and other such services has always been a proble mwith the IRS on how to validate the income.

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I would say you don't care about the truth nor would you accept the truth, or any truth, that does not fit into your political agenda.

 

I Since we passed immigration laws I believe that quote pertains to LEGAL immigrants. You know...the ones who come in with visa's intact, take the classes and pledge citizenship because they are law abiding citizens.

 

Then human beings are savages because every race of men have taken land for blood and empire

 

You mean people breaking the law makes it unwanted? You do know there are 300 million + people in this country right?

How the hell is people breaking or ignoring the law making it unwanted when the people breaking the law are not even citizens of the country.

 

Scabies is NOT easily curable anymore! I contacted it from a hospital after surgery and they gave me the lotion to put on. It did not work. They gave it to me again...it did not work. Finally they gave me a pill and it worked. Believe me...I left my bedroom for 6 days because the dr. said it would only last on surfaces for 48 hours but I wasn't taking any chances. I washed every piece of clothing and bedding I had with a sulphur based detergent and dried them all on the hottest setting. I sprayed down the furniture and washed my floors with a sulphur based soap! And that was just me living alone in my house. I can imagine what it would be like with thousands of people cooped up together and passing it back and forth and then going on to other people in other states!!!! Considering they wouldn't be able to do more than put on the lotion...that crap will spread FAST across the USA!

 

Yes. When millions of people ignore a law, it's pretty clear that they don't appreciate it. Remember prohibition?

And you're mistaken in the second part, those 10 million residents who came here despite the law were supported and continue to be supported by a much larger number of folks — who were already citizens.

You can't enforce a law, if the population doesn't respect it.



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You are entirely correct. The purpose of the quotas was to preserve the ethnic purity of the European colonization.

But if you are trying to say that IF the visas should be issued, the Central and South Americans who are illegally immigrating still would NOT take the classes and pledge citizenship and abide by the laws, then I disagree with you. They are pouring in illegally because in our wisdom we have slammed the legal doors in their faces, and we refuse to even attempt to manage and direct the inflow. There are plenty of useful, helpful, forward-thinking things we could do to take advantage of people willing to risk their lives to come here, bust their butts for nearly nothing, risk deportation at any time, yet often learn the language and try to get their kids into American schools. Erecting an iron curtain isn't one of those things.

 

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This is an insight most people never have. Laws that violate the public appreciation of what's right or appropriate or helpful tend to be so widely ignored as to be unenforceable - except almost whimsically, so the victims of enforcement just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

An interesting footnote, or should be to you, is that one of the many tax protester claims is that paying taxes is voluntary. And they get that nonsense from a phrase extracted from some Supreme Court decision observing that truly widespread tax avoidance would be nearly impossible to enforce, but in the US (as opposed to, say, Greece) people DO pay their taxes without being arrested or coerced. So this Justice wrote that people pay their taxes voluntarily, that is, without some tax cop going door to door making them do it. But the tax protesters couldn't understand that laws won't work if most people don't obey them voluntarily, and misinterpreted this to mean that you don't have to pay taxes if you don't want to.

The idea that laws not respected can't be enforced also escapes the entire War on Drugs industry, who funnel billions into building jails to house harmless citizens, while enriching organized crime and supporting appalling violence, while not reducing drug use even a little bit.

 

Yep, there's savages in all races. But you are the one bragging about white savage behavior as if it's a good thing.

 

What do you mean they are "treated"? Treated by whom?

Why is the CDC warning about infectious illegal aliens entering our nation and spreading rare diseases around if the problem isn't worth anyone's concern? The health aspects of the illegal immigration debate are just as valid to consider as any other aspect you care to bring up.

I agree. But your claim was that we have measles out breaks because "idiots" fail to vaccinate their kids (as if that cancels out illegals that spread new strains of TB around).
It's a failing attempt at equivalency of contagions.

And as I said it's just one more negative consequence of letting just about everyone stay in our nation that can sneak through our porous borders. It's no more insignificant than the billions we've poured into our schools to institute entire curricula in Spanish.

We can strive to meet that standard whether we reach it or not. As I said, if some one passed some rare strain of TB on to you I'm sure that suddenly you wouldn't be so cavalier about a problem the CDC wrestles with.

We can do much better than we currently are doing. That's a fact.

I agree though making other governments take responsibility for the people they've encouraged to break our laws is no small task.
Aid should be entirely contingent on cooperation.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/feb/12/20050212-112200-6485r/?page=all
http://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/general-guidelines.html
What's false is your insistence that there is really is no problem here.

If you don't want the borders to stay wide open you certainly seem anxious to downplay the health risks of letting just anyone enter our country.

They haven't taken a political stance but they
have made it clear that a whole host of rare diseases are flowing across the border along with the illegals that bring them in.
To take clear uncontroverted facts and call that a "race based" appeal is about as low as it gets. Are you proud of yourself or just acting instinctually?

Neither do AIDS. Should we stop worrying about that too?