I'm not racist but...

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by robini123, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. africanhope

    africanhope New Member

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    Yes Libhater, I am sure. See, unlike you I check facts before posting. You should try it. And the attacks on white you talk about is also a work of fiction. We have a crime problem,may too many murders, and ALL South Africans suffer through it.

    So, in short Libhater, as I always seem to be telling you- facts are your friend.

    AH
     
  2. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    When people make any assertion and follow it with a "but" they're preparing to refute their assertion. "I'm not in favor of raising taxes but...." "I'm not considering banning popsicles but...." "I reject voter fraud but...." "I'm not a jew hater but...." My personal favorite, "I'm not posting flamebait but...."
     
  3. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    I don't see where you presented any facts to refute my assertion that whites are getting murdered in S.A. at an alarming rate--and it ain't other whites doing the murdering. In fact, you almost admitted as much by saying S.A. has way to many murders.
     
  4. leftysergeant

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    Of course, anywhere that there is a severe disparity in wealth, especially if that disparity resulted from a major injustice committed by one identifiable class upon another, there will be a high crime rate.
     
  5. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    Wrong. Every black population has a high murder rate, whether they are living in poverty next to whites, or living in (worse) poverty on their own.
     
  6. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Another reason why ethnic diversity may not be such a good thing. Different races are bound to have different levels of income, it is a natural phenomena for several different reasons. Trying to artificially create equality is troublesome, costly, inconvenient, and potentially infringes upon freedom.

    More ethnic diversity will greatly exacerbate the inequality within our countries.
     
  7. leftysergeant

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    Utter twaddle. The disparity in wealth in South Africa is a reult of the fact that whites laid claim to the gold and diamonds and the best farm land and told the natives that they would just have to scratch out a living where they were.

    Had they been allowed to get the same sort of education and apply for the same sorts of jobs as whites and to move to the places where there were well-paid jobs, they would, almost from the start, have moved toward formation of a modern, peaceful society.

    Going on a couple decades now, blacks are still not getting that much better access to the maintstream of the ecconomy because the Boers still own most of everything that is worth much. A single foreign corporation has a total strangle hold on South Afdrica even now because they control the diamond market.
     
  8. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    That is not the only reason. In many countries in Africa the corporations did cause atrocities and slavery for the natives. However, in countries that were not oppressed, the Africans did not raise themselves to the same level. This is the key point. No people should expect somebody to come and educate them. They need to raise themselves.

    Africa does have a bad history of oppression. I support independence for Africans, and in many cases they can make progress, such as in Botswana, which is rich through diamond mining and seems to have a largely responsible government.

    One fact people often miss is that Western South Africa was largely uninhabited when colonised by whites, and there were certainly no Bantu there.

    However, I think it is wrong to just assume that any disparities are entirely due to "oppression".
     
  9. africanhope

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    Your still trying your old trick by changing what you were saying when you get caught out for having no proof - you stated that white South Africans have a low life span, and i showed you how you were wrong, and you could not present any proof to the contrary.

    Now your second assertion is as funny - I admit that SA has a high murder rate, and you take this as proof that I agree that blacks are killing whites?

    I have shown you before libhater - whites are also doing the killing, also more blacks (statistically, so don't come with 'but there are more of them') that whites are being murdered. ALL south Africans suffer due to crime.

    AH
     
  10. leftysergeant

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    The only place where they were not oppressed was in Ethiopia, but that was because Ethiopia was already an advanced civilization. They went into decline only after Arabs and Europeans occupied the coastline and surroundig countries. This is the key point.

    The Songhai were doing quite nicely before first, the Moroccans, then the French invaded.

    That says it all, then.

    There were Khoisan peoples there. The Bantu were already begining to settle, but progress was limited due to the difficulty of establishing an agricultural base.

    Namibia is irrelevant to this discussion, anyway, unless you are looking for an explanation of why there were no advanced civilizations there.

    People hadn't gotten there in sufficient numbers before a better-equipped (wheat-farming) culture arrived to oppose them.

    You offer no proof of your position.
     
  11. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Chew on this report for a while.

    http://rense.com/general29/silence.htm
     
  12. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    Absolute gibberish.

    The problems you are seeing are entirely down to one thing, White Greed. They are insatiable.

    I can understand a desire for money but killing babies and mothers for it?!?!?
     
  13. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    For example????
     
  14. marleyfin

    marleyfin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    are you trying to battle racism with racism?
     
  15. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    How can I be racist to my own race?
     
  16. marleyfin

    marleyfin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ever heard of Clayton Bigsby? But in seriousness the insatiable white greed comment was pretty racist. Greed and malevolence comes in all skin tones.
     
  17. mikemikev

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    Ethiopia is 40% Caucasian and I doubt it had an advanced civilization.
    The Songhai empire was run by Berbers.
    Botswana is rich because they are sitting on a pile of diamonds. They have very little in the way of indigenous industry.
    How can you say Namibia is irrelevant after you randomly bring up Ethiopia and Mali? I was referring to the Western province of South Africa.
    "People hadn't gotten there in sufficient numbers" = largely uninhabited.
    I have offered some good arguments in favor of genetic IQ theory. You just ignored them.
    There is little I can do about that.
    You said something about "bigotry"?
     
  18. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Nope, I'm west of 75 and south of 30, but north of Loop 12. Where am I?

    You're not George Bush are you? LOL
     
  19. NAB

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    Oak Cliff, obviously. I used to live in North Oak Cliff.

    No, I'm not GWB, but he doesn't live far from me....which kind of sucks. Saw him an Laura at a restaurant not long ago.
     
  20. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    You have misconstrued your source. It is caucasians that are 40% Ethiopian, since Ethiopians are the Original man/woman.
     
  21. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    I am european who has an opinion about other europeans, nothing malicious or controversial about that let alone racist.
     
  22. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Yep, the Cliff. Born & raised. North OC is still the prettiest part of Dallas. I enjoy the drive thru Kessler every morning on the way to work.

    Nice to see another Dallasite here. ;)
     
  23. MrConservative

    MrConservative Well-Known Member

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    Funny. Right before I clicked on this thread, I was actually expecting a racist remark.
     
  24. AndrogynousMale

    AndrogynousMale Active Member

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    Because a few other people posted the ethnic statistics of their neighborhood, here's mine:

    Hispanic/Latino: 20%
    White*: 76.1%
    Black*: 0.1%
    Native American*: 1%
    Asian*: 0.6%
    Hawaiian/Pacific Islander*: 0.2%
    Other*: 0.2%
    Multiracial*: 1.5%
     
  25. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    I'm racist because I state biological and statistical facts and apply parsimony to scientific evidence.

    What makes you racist?
     

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